Objective boxing fans: Do you see Greatness in Joe Calzaghe?

He could have been greater, no one disputes that

But he's racked up good-great victories against a very very prime Kessler, a very very very good Hopkins, Veit, a very very good Lacy who everyone thought would dismantle Calzaghe (Someone whom the public deemed as the next Tyson atsch) among others.

He has a very crowd pleasing styles and throws 1000+ punches on any given night, it's spectacular to watch.

He gets up from the floor each and everytime and wins, that's something to be respected.

He's probably a top 100 ATG after all things are considered.

It's just that some extremely ridiculous Pro-Calzaghe fans can really go too over the top. It gets annoying.

 

Damned right I see greatness in Calzaghe. I miss him......................

 

No, I don't see greatness... I see THE GREATEST :deal

 

Not sure how it's polluting your thread. I've stated fair points.

Ah, this thread is troll to begin with. You just want people to agree with you and call him an overrated protected hypejob. atsch

Gotcha.

 

:nod

His opinion was immediately deemed invalid for the rest of time when he failed to see greatness in super Joe.

 

Yes.

I think he had a good CHIN, good SPEED, EXCELLENT work rate, and had good attributes all around.

I think his father wasn't maybe the best trainer ever, and I also think that maybe he didn't have management that did his legacy any favors.

But even basing him off of what he did, he is still a great fighter...

It will always come into question how great he "really" was...

This will happen to FMJ as well, people seem to want to test something until it finally breaks down. But sometimes you just have to use your boxing knowledge and judge from what you see. It's not their fault that someone didn't finally crack them.

I saw a great fighter in JC.

 

HOF def... just not a ATG.

 

Lol MVC! posted a quality post & look at how your answer, after that people wonder why everyone's trolling !

@subject of the thread:
He's good, but not top 25 or something like most of his fans think, he had good wins ( some over past prime opponents ), but still good wins. Bottom 100 because he's undefeated & had fan friendly style / amazing punch output and always got up.

 

Forget stoppages, it was all about slappages for Calzaghe. A barrage of slaps with speed from angles not giving his opponent any moment to even sniff requires some level of greatness.

 

If we are going to say his KO rate would've been 20% but for British stoppages, we have to be fair and say it actually would've been much higher but for the hand issues.

 

dude, calzaghe should never be mentioned in the same post as a warrior like lomachenko. he is no cowardzaghe.

that's said, two great things joe had were stamina and protective management. Actually three great things, an unwavering support from hardcore fans who swallowed up subnational defence after subnational defence for a decade, and even now many of them haven't cottoned on that they were robbed by joe. That's a truly great.

a good chin helped him survive a lot of fights he would have lost, that's and his referee in Cardiff of course. but not a great chin at all.

 

If he'd have gone to the US earlier, his resume would have looked better (Johnson, Tarver, younger Hopkins)