Who can Mayweather fight for his 50-0?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by abuffy, Jun 12, 2015.


  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I never used the word shot. You did.

    I specifically used the phrase "compared to what he was".

    To put it another way, he is far, far, far removed from his 2009-2010 form. And those days, his best days, are long gone forever. It's all downhill for Pac from here.

    His feet are several levels below Floyd in terms of speed, and even more levels below in terms of skill.
     
  2. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, that's why I was shocked at how flat-footed and slow he looked. That was the one thing that stood out to me the most. Roach even said after the fight that Pac was way too flat-footed. Like I said, I think it was because of how heavy he was. 152! Heaviest he's ever been brought in. Mayweather came in at 148.7, believe it or not.

    Pacquiao needs to go back down to his more natural weight, 140. I think he could dominate down there.
     
  3. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're insinuating shot by using sentences like that.
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can see it and I've probably watched that fight 10 times. :nod
     
  5. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? :huh

    But he clearly beat Maidana 8-4 and lost to Castillo 7-5. :nod
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    No, I'm not. You're just inexplicably reading into it that way.

    I think Pac still beats most guys in the 140-147 range. That is not a "shot" fighter. You're just being obtuse, or your embracing the simpleton mentality that a fighter can't be slipping, in decline, or far removed from his best days without "being shot".

    :smoke
     
  7. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't want to get into a semantic argument with you. It's stupid.
     
  8. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Khan and Garcia are the candidates two great victories if where other fighter other than Floyd. Floyd victories over those two are only good if you compare talent.
     
  9. icarus1

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    possible floyd opponents are canelo and pac. all other opponents will be a tough sell unless with a really good undercard which will be hard considering floyd's big purse guarantee. floyd fights only in vegas and his biggest payers are the mexicans hence they do everything to get his fight on mexican holidays. pac is the only opponent that can sell anywhere at anytime. all others will be tough gamble on investors guaranteeing floyd's purse.
     
  10. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would floyd have knocked manny out if his hands were healthy? Mayweather controlled the range, Pacquiao's ridiculously cautious approach after the two hard right hands in round 1 brought back memories of Dinamita didn't help along with Roach's floundering strategy... the shoulder also played its part.

    Mayweather controlling distance against a fighter who needs to be mid-range was the decisive factor and always was going to be if manny fought with hesitation, still couldn't cut off the ring and walked in straight lines. No speed advantage, no weight advantage, no reach advantage.

    Here is some ****ysis you might find interesting;

    'Mayweather's style is a measured and slow-paced one that is largely dependent upon distance. Although he is often praised as a sharp counter-puncher, it is his use of distance which allows him to execute his counters so effectively. Constantly you will see him shuffling backward or skipping off the the side to thwart his opponent's offense. The former creates space, while the latter denies their line of attack. So, how does he use this range?

    With a 72 inch wingspan, he has an abnormally long reach for a guy who stands around 5'8". What this means is that when he and his opponent are jockeying for position at long range, he usually is able to outreach them. This is a significant asset because his best punching comes from this long range. Since this is such an advantage to him, he tirelessly works to fight at the longest range possible. Standing just outside of punching range, Floyd plays with the distance to get his opponents to commit to strikes.'
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, you're the one who claimed I insinuated Pac was "shot", which begs the question, what does being "shot" mean to you? Because it obviously means something different to you.

    Again, I still think Pac beats most guys at 140-147. That's not a fighter I view as being shot.

    :smoke
     
  12. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Woah, slow down there. I was talking about Mayweather/Castillo 1. Mayweather would've won the Castillo fight cleanly if his shoulder was healthy. I can see how this is confused though.
     
  13. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Josie Harris for like the 4th time