Harsher penalties for failure to make weight

The key number here is the in-ring weight of a boxer.
this HAS to be tightened up big time.
This is the loophole that has allowed welter weight sized boxers to compete in so called Featherweight fights.
Boxers should not be allowed in the ring if they are a certain amount over the other boxer, and both should not be allowed be more than a certain number of pounds above the weight class limit.

 

For example take Carl Frampton. At 122 lets impose a 7ibs. Rehydration limit. So Carl can rehydrate to 129.
Let's also impose a 4lbs maximum discrepancy.
So let's sayhis challenger rehydrated to 125.
Can the fight go ahead?..sure.
Carl at 129 is within the allowable 7lbs of the superbantam limit and no more than the allowable 4lbs heavier than his challenger.
Both boxes are ticked...belt and braces approach.

If the challenger only gains two pounds and comes in at 124, then Carl cannot be more than 128, ( ie keeping the 4lbs discrepancy rule intact)

This will ensure fair even matches between two REAL superbantam boxers in this case....and a healthier and safer sport overall.

Do likewise for all the other divisions, on a pro-rata sliding scale basis. So for example welterweight boxers might be allowed gain 10 lbs and be up to 5lbs apart in their real in ring weight.

 

Carl is campaigning in the best circumstances imo , with being the IBF route they have a far superior ruling to any other governing body with there check weigh in on the morning of the fight and hydration limit of 10lbs same goes for Kell Brook and Lee Selby

 

Penalties need to be harsher for sure but has everyone not noticed a regular trend with this?

The amount of times it is the A side fighter,the draw far,far more so than the B side tells you why the fight will always go ahead.

A % extra then gets paid to the B side fighter who though he may get some financial compensation is handicapped twice the underdog already it's a joke.Trust me that fighters team is also put under massive pressure not to pull out by promoters.

British forum so two examples from both sides.Brandon Rios v John Murray 2011 a real sad case.JM got an extra $20k but at what cost ?JM was under massive pressure not to pull out he had spent a small fortune on his camp on a massive platform for him.Everyone up in arms here rightly so and Rios a serial cheat at this.

Rocky Fielding v Charles Adamu last year it was an even bigger disgrace.Fielding weighing in as a light-heavy for a commonwealth 168lb title fight.Adamu could of got seriously hurt on the night it went ahead thankfully it didn't.Moog and guys it was one of the worst examples recently surprise,surprise it is also forgotten because it involved one of our fighters and Adamu didn't want to pull out and cost himself money.If i told you what Fielding's in ring weight on the night was you wouldn't believe it.

 

But there is no "in ring maximum discrepancy" rule.
The boxers must be the same size.
That is vital..it must be brought in to ensure even matches, fair matches between same-sized boxers.
This is better for the boxers, the fans, everybody wins.

Carl could theoretically out weigh a challenger by at least 10lbs. At superbantam 10lbs is an awful or of weight. Totally unsafe.

 

Id take a guess at not far off 14st ??

 

Yes 192lb in ring weight 13st 10lb.Adamu was lucky.. now to a fight showing the affects of such unfair weight differences.

Guys look at Arturo Gatti v Joey Gamache controversial weigh-in 26th Feb 2000.

Gatti over and Gamache's team wanted Gatti back on the scales as he was over the catchweight 141lb limit he jumped on and off the scales.Gamache's team did not see the figure on the scales as is common practice.

HBO in ring weights on the night Gatti 160lb,Gamache 145lb.

Gamache destroyed in 2 and brain damaged because of the fight lucky to escape with his life now on permanent medication.

 

^ can happen again. Discrepancies of more than a stone are common under current rules. It's bad.

 

The problem is the endemic use of diuretics in boxing..

 

So ....put testing in place. Test positive....big punishment. Problem solved.
A LOT more needs to be done or there will be more tragedies in future.

Strict random testing and more frequent/numerous weight checks combined with the measures I outlined above would eliminate much of the problem IMO.

 

them measures you outlined above were absolutely ridiculous :nut....

but there should be a rehydrated weight limit of a flat 10% above official weight in all classes (to start with) reducing to 5% in a year say,just to give fighters time to find their TRUE weight class...atm its just all over the place

 

This sounds sensible to me.

I wonder what the organising bodies' motives are for not implementing something like this. These things usually come down to $$$..