Who ranks higher All time? Hopkins or Calzaghe?

Man ??? Where I cant see a man I only see MVC He needs a straight jacket LOLatsch

 

Calzaghe did NOT win 12 He got a gift political decision he in no way deserved. Hence he took to the hills & retired when Hopkins offered to rematch Slappy in Wales. Slappy knew Nard would put him on his a$$ again but this time for a 10 count

 

Let me continue the assault

 

funny, butthurt and trolling all combined in one irrelevant post of Herols :deal

 

Your're laughing but he cant even back up his comments. Makes both of you look a joke, and you have to remember that Auracle claims to have me on ignore, which came about after he was badly owned and couldnt live with it. Still laugh along.
You know the saying - the one who laughs last didnt get the joke

 

Instead they dont need to when a shot, bloated, end of career Calzaghe with damaged hands and no LHW pedigree went up to LHW and beat Hopkins sandwiched between arguably Hopkins best wins at a weight where Hopkins had established himself as the man

 

Did it especially for you :deal

 

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins . Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored at that time the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever at that time.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt.
What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

 

I really don't understand why this is still up for debate. Slappy Joe's career almost got eclipsed by a green timid Andre Ward without him really trying..

Hopkins is a p4p ATG while Slappy Joe is the best SMW of all time which really isn't saying that much.

 

Why do you think Hopkins decided against facing B Mitchell at SMW?

 

Because the Super Middleweight division has always been a joke division where 2nd tier LHW's fought because the talent above was 2 2 much.

Slappy Joe, despite his hilarious slapping technique hid in the division fighting obscure fighters like Manfredo Jr and Jeff Lacy all of his career. He managed to win a split decision against a senior citizen in his first fight at LHW which cemented his legacy as the best SMW of all time.

Hopkins SKIPPED SMW like a true great and went straight after the man in the division Antonio Tarver.. he knew the division was a joke.. :yep he could win a belt at SMW anytime he wanted, even now. But that would do nothing for his legacy.

 

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Though that shot, bloated end of career Calzaghe was still an elite fighter, and had Hopkins won, it would have been undoubtedly one of his best victories if not his best.