Rank These HW in terms of Functional boxing strength

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Genuinely curious what the confusion is... I'm not asking who can bench press the most or squat the most.. I'm saying for boxing.. where strength is used for stuff like holding, clinching, leverage etc etc
     
  2. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well yeah, that is what I specifically said FUNCTIONAL strength for boxing and not who can bench press the most etc etc
     
  3. boxfan22

    boxfan22 Active Member Full Member

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    You mean physical strength right? A thread was already made about this. Ali is the most physically strongest boxer of all time. He manhandled monsters like sonny liston, george foreman, cleveland williams, and earnie shavers.
     
  4. boxfan22

    boxfan22 Active Member Full Member

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    Look at the dumb plebs on here thinking punching power equates to physical strength.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not a fan, eh?
     
  6. Quick Cash

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    For pure strength, it might go:

    Foreman
    Jeffries
    Louis
    Liston
    Ali
    Johnson
    Tyson
    Holmes

    Boxing strength requires more guesswork.

    Foreman's still carries. His forward momentum proved nearly irresistible. He's carried calves on his shoulders and pulled jeeps uphill. A bull in every sense of the word; maybe simple-minded, definitely exploitable, but undeniably strong.

    I think Ali and Johnson come in second. Again, it's difficult to put a finger on them because their application involved a touch more guile and wiliness. Being two of the taller ones in their respective eras also put them in an advantageous position.

    Liston, like Foreman, bodily pressed opponents into tangles. Sonny was quite often said to have gotten the better of George in sparring. In my opinion, though, his domineering presence contributed more to his opponents' retreat; great strength did not heavily figure into it.

    Louis is a curious case here. Not known for a style that put emphasis on strength, he was able to casually lift the giant Carnera off both his feet. Contrast that to Holmes, who was only able to push an unbraced Berbick back a step, one begins to see the clear delineation between the two. I'd lump him up with Jeffries.
     
  7. mcvey

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    Who were the journalists?
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    When did Tyson ever exhibit this strength? Johnson was a tremendously strong man in a clinch as Jeffries found out.
    Louis manhandled Carnera yet you have these two at the bottom of your list?
     
  9. mcvey

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    It is impossible to be definite about such an esoteric attribute but one question :

    Which boxer near his own size did Jeffries manhandle?
    Johnson pushed his arms up his back and moved him around the ring at will, and this was in the early rounds whilst he was still fresh.
    Tom Sharkey,watching from ringside declared,"it's no contest! "Jeffries was 19lbs heavier than Johnson.
     
  10. janitor

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    The incident was reported in the San Francisco Call, August 5 1904.

    On the morning of the 4th, Jeff again worked with the 350lb sandbag, handling it with no effort. In the afternoon he played baseball. In the evening Jeff went hunting, and again demonstrated his physical prowess, in a way that made Hercules cleaning of the Augean stable s look easy. After killing a steer, Jeff lifted the carcass without any apparent effort and placed it into a wagon. After it was cut up and weighed, the scales showed 510 pounds.
     
  11. McGrain

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    I'm not saying it didn't happen at all. But it didn't happen like that. Overhead presses over 300lbs are really very rare. Even squatting 510lbs is seen as a really, really special achievement. There is no doing it "without any apparent effort."

    Doesn't mean he didn't lift the steer, but it does mean that there is at least some colour here.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Perhaps he squatted down and lifted one end of the steer onto the truck, while leaving the other end on the ground, then lifted the other end of the steer on to the truck?
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Something that renders the written version less impressive than it currently stands is necessary, yes.
     
  14. lepinthehood

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  15. mcvey

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    I'd say a rainbow.:yep Jeffries was a strong man, but Paul Anderson he was not.