Carlos Monzon vs Gerald McClellan at MW

Monzon weathers an early storm and stops McClellan around the 10th.

 

No. Monzon would outclass him.

 

Nigel Benn even in the early going seemed to have success landing the long right hand, if this was a deficient defensive element exploitable by a class opponent that does not succumb to his early Bomb Run than he is in Trouble with Mr Monzon ...Real Trouble... Monzon does not get intimidated.. and where renowned Punchers used to early endings may start to mentally Flounder when not only does the quick Ko fails to materialise tBut the Bombs start landing on him.... Carlos may bring his own element of Cruelty to proceedings, a Puncher likes to make an early Impression... To know that he is respected... that an opponent has Concerns.... Carlos may leisurely drift through the first nine Rounds... before starting to engage that 5th gear... The Lord Giveth...and Carlos Monzon and his long right hand taketh Away...Circa 11th..
Unless that is Carlos feels like Slowly pulling the wings off of the Fly.

 

I'd go along with this.

 

Please, Monzon would have kicked his ass..

Mccllean didn't have The neurological capability to take a lot of hard shots in a long grueling fight, and Carlos would have been clubbing him at will in a long 15 round fight..

Monzon was way above this turd..

 

I agree. The only real x-factor is that McClellan was way bigger given the different weigh in rules, which Gerald milked.

 

McClellan was a massive danger for any MW early and yes he may KO MOnzon early. If he doesn't Monzon takes over and wins a wide decision or late KO.

 

Monzon easy UD a class above G Man

 

First off, Gman hits like a truck and was very athletic. But this match-up is between a talented titlest (Gman) and a true all time great (Monzon). After some heated early rounds Monzon's jab starts breaking Gman down and slowly the fight turns into a beat down. Monzon demolishes him with hard straight rights over and over in the late rounds. Monzon had such an awesome jab. Often he just cruises, dismantling guys so slowly but always in control. In that upright stance with that spearing jab it was a great weapon and arguably one of the best jabs ever. He threw perfect straight rights, very hard but never in a rush. Just watch the first Benvenuti fight the later rounds he steps it up and was throwing bombs very late in the fight with no issues at all, the guy had crazy stamina even chained smoked some say up to 50 smokes a day (he cut back in training though). Monzon was a straight up beast -he just took his time thats all.

Monzon was undisputed champ for 7 years , 100 fights with I think one knockdown. Gman was an offensive fighter he could box (he had an great amateur career) but loved to bang. He was all about backing the other guy up. His favourite was the jab-straight right and finish with a left rip to the body. His offense was dependent on that straight right. Monzon takes all that away. I have a hard time thinking that Gman's powerful right damages Monzon. Sure a few would land but Monzon was as hard as they come. Gman was a mid-long range bomber for the most part, and no way is he getting close to Monzon's body with that inside left rip. Monzon would make him eat jabs all night backing him up and making him reset.

 

Excellent post....someone who actually understands and appreciates Carlos Monzon!!
Pre 1973 Monzon stops McClellan by 13 or 14....post 1973 Monzon just outclasses G Man, winning a one sided decision. McC wouldn't have had a prayer of doing any real damage to Monzon, but he would suffer great damage, no matter with version of Carlos he fought. There's no comparison in class....a great, intimidating puncher vs a true all time great.

 

On Youtube there is top quality sparring between a prime James Toney and a young rising pro Gman. The sparring is very telling, Gman is by no means blown away but Toney slowly begins to slip that straight right. Gman's offense though very powerful is not really complex. Toney starts to eat him up, pounding the body and Gman's only response is that straight right over and over. I'm not saying he was a limited fighter but he lived and DIED by that right hand. Very few could take that bomb - just look at Benn he won but took truckloads of punishment. After 3 rounds Gman totally backs up in retreat boxing mode sticking the jab and moving giving up the ring to Toney. Gman could really box he was up on his toes very natural and smooth - very Ali like upright and a long jab shot from the hip almost like backhand sense (sometimes Prince Naseem did that when he boxed from the oustide taking a breather). Even though losing to Toney he was still in there.

Monzon all day for the win. That guy was super mean. He loved a tear up in the ring or the street - doesnt matter. From all the articles and books I read he was surly and took no sh-t from anyone. Although he became mega famous he was always the quiet determined hard-ass from the barrio. At his prime he looked like a choir boy, bowl haircut, no muscle defintion and super skinny, nerd like. But he was muy macho one of the wildiest boxers we have seen out of the ring. To me he exemplfies the cliche Alpha male with the worst traits. Dude lived his life by his rules, he took what he wanted and never backed down. He burnt the candle at both ends big time like Tyson except he could maintain his career. Stamina was never an issue and technically so simple jab straight right tie up. But he was clinical and tough as they come, great chin ultra tough body he wasn't going any where. He will overwhelm you at some point just depends on how he feels. With his style he must have been a monster in the gym barely getting touched bombing guys away from the distance. Its easy to spar rounds when you are in total control and this guy always was. One trait that I think makes a truly great fighter is that it's their ring. Monzon would take rounds off conserving energy, he goes in that stick the jab mode and is just chilling behind it and can do that all day. It's almost like he is saying I will relax now you do all the work but Im still the boss. The guy must have been a total nightmare to fight and defines the saying "take them into deep waters and drown em".

The recent Gman Benn documentary where they met shows Gman was a surly very competitive person. The only problem is that Monzon is twice as bad just disguised in his soft face. One boxing writer described him as "the type of sheep that makes wolves consider a different career". Its this exact personality trait that made him a legend in the ring but also led him to prison as a murderer. I admire the guy in the ring but he was a vicious person outside of it.

Sorry for the long post. I just love boxing.

 

I love this post, thanks:good. And just for the record, I like Rodrigo Valdez over McClellan also.

 

Monzon would have broken G-Man down and stopped him in the later rounds. I accidentally voted for a McClellan KO of Monzon. I meant to vote for a Monzon KO of McClellan. I always seem to screw up on these polls.

 

McClellan would make it very close for 3-4 rounds in straight boxing, but then starts to tire and gas, and Monzon picks him apart more and more as rounds wear by.