Should Pat Russell retire or be investigated for gambling debts?

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  1. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. smooveonthe88

    smooveonthe88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He can't make mistakes like that and expect to get called on to ref major bouts. Real talk, anytime I see him in the ring before a fight, I think he's going to f**k something up. Bradley still wins IMO but you just CAN'T make a mistake like he did last night. I don't think they're going to investigate but it wouldn't surprise me. I just think dude needs to retire or be assigned less meaningful fights.
     
  3. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    STFU Bradley Won !!!
     
  4. Toker

    Toker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's not corrupt just old and incompetent. Another poster mentioned that he saw Pat stop two other fights at the ten second warning as well. So he should quit or not be given big fights, because he is no longer able to perform as a top ref.
     
  5. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    I think Octogenarians should be barred from any decision making, period. A referee needs to be attentive and alert, something that may be a challenge to a person with hearing problems.
     
  6. aaronpernell

    aaronpernell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Genuinely think he just ****ed up at the end of this fight. I mean we have seen plenty of boxers mistake the ten second clap for the bell and I don't think they had money on the fight.
     
  7. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah

    He did save Bradley but I don't think he did it in purpose

    He's just old
     
  8. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even if he let them continue, Bradley would have held on and at worst got knocked down.

    I think they should check how coherent he is considering he is 67 years old.

    If they can't get a better fight for Bradley then they should do the rematch.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The 10-second warning sticks in the 12th round were hit very loudly and repeatedly over and over again. The guy was so excited with the right hand Vargas landed, that he just couldn't stop hitting those sticks, he was basically clapping with those sticks. This warning stick hitting was so loud and jarring, and so hard that to Pat Russell only a bell could make that loud of a sound and he stopped the fight thinking that was the bell. The bell turned out to be the warning sticks.

    Pat Russell should not be blamed for that, instead the warning stick guy should be blamed for hitting the sticks so hard and for so long with 10 seconds remaining causing referee disorientation.
     
  10. masterorder19

    masterorder19 Active Member Full Member

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    Lol god ppl are re****ed..Bradley wasnt going to get stopped lol..
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no way to know what would have happened. Bradley was out on his feet. One punch could have KO'd Bradley. Since the saved by the bell rule was OFF, there was a chance Vargas could have knocked down Bradley with one more punch, and if Bradley went down, the count would have continued to 10 even after the final bell.

    Therefore, Vargas has every right to consider himself undefeated. The fight should be ruled a technical draw (not a no contest) since the fight was ended before the final bell but Bradley should be able to hold onto the interim title until the rematch is fought since he was ahead on the cards at the time of the stoppage.
     
  12. zato-one

    zato-one Pink Jumpsuit Boxing Full Member

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    LOL no.
    Bradley would have survived, he outboxed a ****ty boxer, and won the fight. Deal with it, Timbo UD

    Ill repeat it again...Jessie Vargas is a ****ty boxer, and a Bob Arum hype job.
     
  13. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He just looks especially crooked to me. This is not always accurate, take for example Lawrence Cole. He looks basically honest but is as filthy and dirty as a summer Texas day is long.
     
  14. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    C'mon now you cannot get any more biased( Crooked maybe) refs than Joe Cortez Richard Steele & Kenny Bayless be honest