Prime Calzaghe vs Andre Ward

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  1. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh, sorry. You've never picked a Brit to beat an American :nod
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    not true, i picked froch to beat taylor, and mack just to name a few. khan against algieir, and alexander too.
     
  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No evidence of this exists :think
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nope. It was definitely controversial, just because he's a brit doesn't make those who scored it extremely close not "controversial". UNless you count ineffective slaps like they're flushs hots.
    2. That's a ridiculous statement, and obviously you'll take Zaggers side since you're a brit. Who did Hopkins beat after being 40+ that was actually an A fighter?
    3. Yep, he beat the guy who made Hopkins try to quit.
     
  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes there is, go to vcash bets, and look at the bets I placed for khan/algieri.
     
  6. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Let's be real..

    Most picked Price to beat the 45233545 year old fat senior citizen, I even did.

    That's the last time I depended on a Brit, the jaw is always a factor. :yep
     
  7. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was nothing controversial about it unless you can't score boxing matches :conf

    You will obviously take the non-Brits side since you are the self-dubbed "master of Brits and Euros". Hopkins beat Pavlik in his next fight after Zaggers and beat Tarver and Winky in the 2 fights running up. He was in a great run of form. Zaggers was a injured and old before his time.

    He beat the mummified version of the guy who made Hopkins try to quit :deal
     
  8. Brighton bomber

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    I will add Ward may go on to be greater than Calzaghe, in fact I expect it but sometimes it's a matter of styles.

    If Ward had a better right hand like BHop, if he had the pop to keep Calzaghe off him and if Calzaghe hadn't proved he could adapt and alter game plans to win fights then maybe I'd favour Ward but at the moment based upon what we've see of Ward I'd still favour Calzaghe and I don't like Calzaghe at all and am a Ward fan. Until Ward can show something more than he has so far I will favour Calzaghe in a close fight.
     
  9. lewis gassed

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    Calzaghe by late decision, around 10th round.
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I could say the same to you. The only people that would argue about the fact that the fight can't be scored for Hopkins are brit****s. This is fact. You brit****s score zaggers slaps like they're flushs hots :lol:. To me one of the most important aspects in scoring fights are how clean and effective a pucnh is landed, but clearly you dont know hwo to score a fight so this is irrelevant ot you.

    Since when was Pavlik an A level fighter? Are you really crediting HOpkins for beating Winky lmfao, did youw atch the fight, and do you not know that he was at 160 a fight before? Do you not realize how much the cut had an effect on the outcome of the fight too?
    Nice excuse for Zaggers being injured though. I'm sure an ancient Hopkins didn't have to deal with any injuries.

    I like how you keep saying Ward beat a mummified version of the guy who made Hopkins quit, yet you dont mention that winky was more than 10 pounds lighter the fight before :lol:.
     
  11. Ducklerr

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    That's fine. Disregard the Winky win for B Hop and the Dawson one for Ward - both were farces of the highest order. :nod B Hop beat Tarver and Pavlik on either side of losing to Zaggers. Very good run of form :deal

    What do you consider to be B Hop's A level wins? :think

    And forgive me if I don't take my scoring advice (particulary in USA/UK encounters) from the man who felt Brook was "robbed" against Porter :think
     
  12. ellerbe

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    So tell me who exactly did Pavlik beat, give me his extensive resume. The only name win that's even worth mentioning on his resume is Jermaine Taylor :lol:. Also same goes got Tarver, he lost twice once to Johnson and didnt beat jones until he was off whatever drug he was on . On the other hand Calzaghe was taking his biggest challenges in that part of his career by fighting a young undefeated lion in Kessler, so clearly he was closer to his prime.
    Jones admitted taking a produce named ***8220;Ripped Fuel***8221; which contained androstenedione, a natural hormone which was available over the counter until 2004 when it was made illegal by the FDA.
    HIs win over Jones was in 04.

    Also I've mentioned several times my scoring for Brook/Porter was solely based on the 100+ times Brook held Porter. You can go back and quote me. I thought Porter was robbed because he was the champ, and you can't take the title from a champ holding that much. The guy hugged Brook more than Abril hugged Rios :lol:. If we're talking about who won the boxing match, Brook clearly did, but you shouldn't be able to take a title that way.
     
  13. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe is above elite...he is in the ATG level. ATG talent, skill, and boxing IQ....Ward does't have all three like Joe does.

    Joe is FASTER, BETTER CHIN, BETTER POWER, BETTER WORKRATE.

    Ward wins four rounds TOPS over PRIME Calzaghe.:hi:
     
  14. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doesn't work that way. Beating up a WEIGHT-DRAINED Dawson has nothing to do with Calzaghe.

    Calzaghe beats the brakes off Ward. Ward NEVER face a Man on Calzaghe's level...Period.

    Calzaghe toys with Ward like he did Roy Jones..Too much speed and skill.
     
  15. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny how the man that DKSAB picks Ward.:lol:

    Calzaghe wins...even if they fought on Ward's front yard.