How did Marquez randomly become jacked at 40?

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  1. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If that **** Memo never would have said that he has PED's that are undetectable by drug tests I never would have thought of anything. So that is a little bit suspicious, but since he has never tested positive for anything I will assume he did it the natural way
     
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  2. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you don't think Marquez used PEDs you're out of your damn mind.
     
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  3. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Even if JMM used something, all he did was level the playing field vs Pac...:yep
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Evidence doesn't get much more circumstantial than this.
    It's plain as day.
     
    tinman, Jul 2, 2015
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  5. Estes

    Estes Active Member Full Member

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    He has been accused of plenty, and with good reason. Is it even disputed that he worked with known doping coach, Heredia?
     
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  6. Estes

    Estes Active Member Full Member

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    Memo's most successful client, Marion Jones, never tested positive either. She did go to jail though.
     
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  7. Estes

    Estes Active Member Full Member

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    Doesn't Roach's own claim that Ariza might have been doping Manny trouble you?
     
    Estes, Jul 3, 2015
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  8. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    TEST(No ester)
    HGH
    Anavar
    Insulin
    Halotestin or Cheque drops
     
    Dos Huevos, Jul 3, 2015
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  9. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    10lbs of lbm in 2 months? No. Not unless you are new to lifting/strength training.
     
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  10. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't understand why this is such a mystery to people. Have you never heard of bodybuilders? Is it news to you that if people start lifting weights and eating more they will start growing bigger muscles.

    You'd think this guy grew another head the way people talk about it sometimes.
     
    newby johnson, Jul 3, 2015
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  11. Jeremy Kyle

    Jeremy Kyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Umm this, Just go head over to bodybuilding forums and check out the skinny to mass sticky thread.
     
    Jeremy Kyle, Jul 3, 2015
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  12. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ehh... they're all on something. Let's stop being naive here.
     
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  13. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has weighed around 140-145 lbs on fight night since his 130-135 lbs fighting days.

    He then gets a strength and conditioning coach to add weight who has him do a properly structured weights program etc for the first time, (for the Mayweather fight they where clueless and had him lifting rocks.) he then goes up to to 150 lbs, while I wouldn't rule out PED's it doesn't sound crazy for me for an elite athlete with proper training to bulk up 5-10 pounds.
     
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  14. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if it's hard work, training, and dedication, he doesn't need to hire Heredia and he even tried to deny him working in his camp. at that age, the muscle gain is just too fast. we have to take every detail into account and not be selective. pee drinking is just smoke to cover for bulking up fast, increased power and stamina, and acne.
     
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  15. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you kidding? I can build that much in 2 months easy. Especially if my job was to be in shape and I had the money to hire personal trainers
     
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