Andre Ward vs Gennady Golovkin: At 164(catchweight) or 168?

It should be at 168

 

168 but not a duck until GGG officially moves up has a couple of warm ups.

 

Well, to be exact he did not say he will fight Ward at 168 as Dawson did.
He said anyone from 154 to 168. I guess 154<164<168. Do the math... The man is true to his words...

 

Ward don't have the gonads to drain himself to 164 neither and fight true fighter. He got used to fight some lame europeans that were no good for ****. It just make him look good. He should try some body with a pulse for a change...

 

Healthy? What the f.. are saying? That GGG going up 8 pounds is somehow easier than Ward going up 7 pounds? Its a smaller step for Ward to go 175 than GGG to 168 and you are making 171 fair, but 164 all wrong.. Sounds more than double standards, sounds like hate.

 

There is a different approach went you price yourself for one fight a year vs. 4 fights a year. GGG fights as many times as possible and he maximes his total revenues a year. He knows he can´t get same money for every fight. He can make same money in a year than Cotto who fights only once a year. Aside that he loves to fight as often as possible, he is just making as much money as possible.

although, IMO he would make bigger fees per fight if he fought only two times a year.

 

Ggg vs ward at 168
Ward vs kovalev at 175

This thread is a freakshow

 

Golovkin is scared already and rightly so. He wants to drain Ward as he has a 0% chance of beating Ward at his natural weight. Fight should be at 168. And lol @ the guy thinking Golovkin is the A side.

 

So GGG is scared unless he moves up fully to Ward's weight, gives Ward more money, and fights on Ward's terms despite being more popular?

Makes total sense.

 

Yes he has to move up...easier to move than move down, plus there are bigger fights at 168 for Ward than fighting Golovkin at any weight. Ward is more proven so can demand the bigger pay day, but pay is irrelevant. Popularity means f all in Boxing I'm afraid.

 

There is no need to be afraid, you are wrong for a start.

Popularity unfortunately means more than being proven (once you reach a certain level), thats why Froch can demand bigger pay days than Ward despite being thoroughly out-boxed by him. Thats why Rigo can't demand the sort of pay days his talent deserves, and countless other examples either way (Chavez Jr another good one). Obviously the 2 generally go hand in hand, gaining popularity by proving yourself, but not necessarily.

In real terms GGG has the more recent form in terms of drawing a crowd/viewers so should have a slight upper hand in negotiating purse splits.

If the fight got made at 168 with a 50/50 spit and a neutral venue then I don't think either fighter or their fans could have cause to complain.

 

Froch gets big paydays in Britain as he is British and Boxing is a rare sport over there compared to America. Chavez is rich off his father's name, and that alone. In in recent times he has slumped from star to almost journeyman level.

You're only saying that because Golovkin has been fighting cans every 3 months. Ward is just back from a hiatus.

Fight has to be at 168, anything else is a joke, unless Ward is willing to drop to 164, which is highly unlikely...Ward is getting enough dollar from Roc Nation anyway so yeah, the split won't be too much of an issue, barring egos. But Ward is the A side.

 

Translation: They get big paydays due to popularity. It doesn't matter why they are popular. and believe me boxing is not "rare" over here, its arguably a bigger sport here than the US.

I'm only saying that because its true, Golovkin is fighting regularly against decent but not great opposition (hardly cans) and building a fan base, as you say Ward has been on hiatus. Thats what it is, you just said it back to me but made it seem like an argument?

You seem to be basing everything off your own emotional reaction rather than any reasoning.

I totally agree fight should be at 168. Whether Ward is the A-side is debatable either way and anyone saying otherwise is guilty of blind fanboy-ism.