Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. Rips into Floyd Mayweather: I would've knocked him out

A PRIME Rosario.:deal

Now it's your turn, don't dodge the question again, What PRIME HOF does FLoyd have on his resume?

 

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So I guess all close fights are robberies now because that's what PBF-JLC 1 was. I guess Mosley-Oscar 1 was a robbery to right? What about Garcia-Lucas? I could go on and on.

 

Hector Camacho

 

Camacho isn't in the HOF man. Try again

 

Floyd would win every round
surely people know this

 

But Gatti is :conf

 

Ye he is he's actually in the HOF unlike Camacho.

 

Yet Camacho is more famous.... :bart

 

That was my point numbnuts.

And don't bother replying to my posts until you man up and answer my previous question. You're ducking it like FLoyd ducked primed fighters.

 

Gatti has no business in the HOF over Comacho but it is what it is. Eventually Camacho gets in though

 

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A few points about Chavez.

By the time Chavez lost to Randall in 1994 he was 90 fights deep, had been a pro for 14 years and was 32 years old.

At this point he was battle weary and already starting to decline. He was also pretty wealthy and less hungry and motivated than he had been just a couple of years earlier.

Nonetheless in the rematch just four months later he stopped Randall in 8 rounds.

When he fought Dela Hoya in 96 and 98 he was close to 100 fights deep and clearly past his best.

You cannot base Mayweather's potential for beating Chavez on these performances.

It's fair to say that Mayweather has never fought anyone quite as good as Chavez.

Emanuel Steward once said of Chavez that he was the only boxer that he couldn't really improve or teach anything new. In fact he said that he learned a few things from Chavez. That alone should tell you how exceptional he was.

I would highly recommend any boxing fan who isn't familiar with Chavez' work to get on YouTube and watch his entire career.

If you watch all Chavez' fights from his first world title shot against Mario Martinez in 1984 right through to Kostya Tszyu in 2000 you will learn an incredible amount about boxing.

You will see how Chavez gradually improved with every fight, developed his skill set and honed his style.

By the time he stepped up to lightweight he was the complete package. He had become incredibly difficult to hit, was a master at cutting off the ring, never took a backward step, was always in punching range, had superb timing, unbelievable accuracy and a great combination and body puncher.

At this point Chavez regularly landed over 60 % of his shots and the way he doubled up the left hook was a thing of absolute beauty.

You will also see how Chavez peaked, slowed down and declined.

There are well over 50 of Chavez's fights on YouTube so you get to see it all. From inexperienced contender, to first class war horse, to washed up legend.

Really, younger fans in particular, could learn a great deal by watching them all in sequence.

 

Chavez did not stop Randall in the re match....it was stopped because of Chavez's cut and went to the cards...and Chavez was slightly ahead but Randall was coming on strong, without the cut Chavez might have lost again, he was clearly declining despite having Emanuellde Stewart in his corner.

 

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Okay so my memory isn't as good as it might be.

You're right about the second Randall fight, of course, cuts not a stoppage.

But we agree that Chavez was already in decline at this point in time, which was my main point.

The rest of my post still stands, though (thanks for reading, it was pretty long!)

 

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Breath a fresh air to read.

Chavez' style and the way he executed his fight game is a thing of beauty to watch. His fight against Rosario is as artsy as a fighter can get, especially when you consider who Chapo was at the time.