Wlad vThe 80's Heavies?

Wlads jab never busted up anybody. Its a barrier more than a weapon.

Thomas had a far superior jab.

 

Yeah whatever man. :-(

Maybe after Wlad beats fury you will finally believe. He proved you wrong about Povetkin Haye and pulev

 

Povetkin bout reinforced what i already knew all along.

He hasn't beaten Fury yet.

 

Your originality in wrong-headedness really must be commended.

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You cannot box the K brothers, you have to jump on them immediately and keep on pushing, same opinion shared by Lennox Lewis.

A young WK threw the kitchen sink at Purrity but the latter did not fold and kept on coming = 1st loss.

Limited Sanders jumped him right out of the gate and forced a tit for tat = 2nd loss

Limited Brewster brought the fight to him, took punishment but kept on coming, no brreathing room for WK = 3rd loss.

Limited Peter pushed WK to the limit becuase he also never let up but was way to un skilled not talented enough to capitalize on WK's short comings. In the only legitimate knock down of the fight any upper echelon fighter, especially Tyson would have finished WK off, no doubt.

Conclusion: You have to force WK to fight not let him sit back, slow the pace down and impose his will. If you get him out of that zone he is very vulnerable.

Tyson is all wrong for WK, too fast, too elusive right out of the gate, WK would have to react not think , gets nailed hard and down he goes. He has heart and might get up but at a minimum the 3 knock down rule will apply. IMO , he aint beating the count.

Again, the key is to push those guys and force them to engage out of their prefered comfort zone, especially Wk, VK is more sturdier , however, as evidenced by Lewis, his skin aint holding up in a war, not just the main cut, he was cut over and under the eye, bleeding heavy from the mouth, lips etc, for six rounds he was carved up like a turkey dinner against the (aged) best fighter he met.

 

He wins against most of them, but he won't go undefeated. Holmes & Tyson I think have the best shot, with Holyfield with a very fair shout too. Spoon if he's on his A game could do damage.
Someone like Weaver could spring a surprise.

 

Yeah Greed. Sitting back invites trouble versus Wlad because he'll bust you up with the jab, hook and right hand.
I don't think Wlad fights well on instinct. He has to have his plan lined up to be effective.

 

I only would favor Tyson.

 

People are so desperate that they bring up Wlad losses that happened 12-15 years ago to criticize the man. When are people going to realize Wlad pre steward was not the same fighter that he later became? Wlad didn't hit his prime until around 2007, peaked around 2009-2011 and his prime ended around 2013-14

 

Full stop....he was with Steward in the Brewster and D Williamson fight.....

WK cant think under extreme pressure, the proof is in the pudding , Sanders, Brewster. You need to maul him where his only defense is clinching, he has (and does not need ) no inside game with his height and reach but there he can be beat by a A grade Heavy, Bowe, Lewis (similar to the VK fight) Tyson, Foreman would maul him with no breathing or thinking room. He would beat Holyfield.

 

Brewster and Williamson were his first and second fights with steward. He was JUST getting started. He clearly improved a lot as a fighter over the next few years once stewards teaching began taking full effect.

If you can't see the big difference in Wlad defensively from 2007-2012 vs the pre 2006 Wlad then we have nothing to talk about.

Wlad did not hit his prime until 2007 and he peaked around 2009-2011

Wlad was not in his prime in 2004-05.

 

Sanders, Brewster, Purrity would not beat the post 2006 Wlad. Brewster didn't. The others wouldn't either. Wlad became too good defensively.

Wlad hasn't been floored in 10 years now, he has faced some very big punchers and elite fighters, he simply is too skilled defensively. by 2007 Wlad learned how to neutralize pressure, he became an expert clincher and a master at using range. He did not possess these qualities pre 2007

 

His defense is imposing his will and force a boxing match not a fight plus extensive clinching. I believe he was also with Steward against Peter and he looked not like a world beater against that extremely strong but extremely limited Peter. Coincidently that was the last time a fighter was willing to go thru fire to get to him.......Bowe, Lewis, Tyson WILL go thru fire to get to him...

My point stands, the key to beat WK is to make him stand and fight.....the current Heavyweight division is so poor that nobody has any talent or the will to go all out on him. They sit on the outside waiting to cash in their pay check, nothing more or less.

 

there is no one in the 80's that should be able to beat the Vlad of his lat 12-13 fights. Vlad dominates...only Holmes would give him a bit of movement but the right hand Rocket would take Larry out as well

 

LOL, he could not take the fraud Haye out or the Russian wannabe Bear but he is going to ice Holmes......you probably believe pigs can fly.......lol, he was taken the distance in his last fight by a plummer yourney man with no amateur degree......Tyson would be all wrong for him, guaranteed.