Wlad vThe 80's Heavies?

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  1. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You'd have to be out of your mind to think that Biggs would beat Wlad.
     
  2. brb

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    What slickster is going to outpoint Wlad? None.

    Wlad is a winner, he's been a winner for a long time (amateurs, pros).

    Bruno is chinny and Smith would be lucky to get a shot.

    I would probably bet on AP beating all of the 80s guys except possibly for Holmes and Tyson.
     
  3. N_ N___

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    Betting Povetkin to beat everyone from the 80s not named Holmes or Tyson is a longshot.

    Betting Povetkin to individually win any match up with a fighter from the 80s not named Holmes or Tyson is reasonable (esp if Holyfield doesn't count). Big difference.
     
  4. latineg

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    if you're saying AP would have a good chance of winning against most of the 80's guys then I would totally agree with you, he is a solid fighter, stumbled a bit on the way up a few times but refocused and has been very solid ever since.

    Now if you're saying AP would walk through every guy in the 80's not named Tyson and Holmes then I disagree with you as I think he would be in a few major back and forth battles with some of the other guys and wouldn't be surprised if he lost one or two of them. Regardless, I really like AP so don't get me wrong, very solid fighter that is fun to watch.
     
  5. mcvey

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    Bruno is chinny? And Wlad?
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    How about WLAD ?
     
  7. SuzieQ49

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    Wlad hasn't been floored in 10 years despite fighting 220-250lb rated contenders. That 10 year tenure without being floored is the longest amount of time a heavyweight champion has gone without being floored

    Either admit wlad had the best defense of all time, or his chin gets undersold
     
  8. mcvey

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    I responded to the poster saying Bruno was chinny as though implying Wlad is not, I disagree with him.
    I don't think Wlad's defence is anything special at all, he gets away with a lot of clinching and laying on that should be penalised but isn't. His tactics against Povetkin were disgraceful and so was the referee for allowing it.
    Jim Jeffries went 15 years before he was floored ,did he have good defence?
     
  9. latineg

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    yeah I think vlad does better than AP,,,,

    he is big, good at tying up on the inside and good at scoring from the outside, hard to fight, hard to beat ever since he realized his chin wasn't granite and started dealing with it using effective strategy that being clinching to regain time to clear your head

    maybe a super quick Tyson sparks him out early, with Tysons power and ability to swarm hurt fighters its possible. Holy in his prime was so tough maybe he stays in the fight and wears Wlado out late by walking through lots of great shots. However, I would flip a coin on those fights, would not surprise me if Vlad in his prime beat them both simply because he is so difficult to fight and beat. Especially if the ref does not enforce point deductions for excessive clinching. 6.6, 240 leaning all over you. Then again, even with point deductions Vlad could still win a lot of fights.

    Great matches to think about :good
     
  10. HerolGee

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    wlad would get destroyed in seconds by the top 80s hws.

    it would be awesome fun to watch, I wuld pay for it. but sadly, even with time machine, you'd never get wladdie to sign against a decent hw, even more so after him being wiped out in seconds by a retired shot2shyte semi former decent hw.
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    My guess is he beats most of them but probably gets careless and upset by somebody. Tyson and Holmes are the men who I'd give a serious chance of beating him, and its still not something I'd feel comfortable betting money on. For years we've seen how well he utilizes his height and reach advantage over rangy boxers and short punchers and likewise how well he ties up someone on the inside. Were the top fighters of the 1980's better than most of the challengers Wlad has met over the past 15 years? Probably in most cases, yes. Were they SOOOO good that it would take him out of his usual fight game? I doubt it.
     
  12. SuzieQ49

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    Jim Jeffries had a solid chin. Jeffries took 6 of those 15 years off from fighting

    Jeffries also fought punchers who weighed 165-185lb while Wlad fought punchers weighing 220-250lb

    Jeffries also refused to defend title against best black fighters while Wlad fought everyone regardless of race
     
  13. sauhund II

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    The Heavyweight division is currently very poor and has been that way for almost a decade right now, not WK's fault.

    No Heavyweight over the last 8-10 years has shown any real talent, the absolute will to win while walking thru fire and make WK fight not get suckered into jab and grab.....the blueprint is there, Brewster, Peter or Sanders walked right into him regardless what was coming back.....WK has not changed , he is still the same when you make him fight on instinct, not calculated safety first jab/grab/right hand, he will panic and will be betrayed by his chin.

    I say it again, insert WK instead of Berbick in a time machine and the torch will be passed, Tyson could not possible more wrong for WK, he either gets clean taken out or the 3 knock down rule will apply.
     
  14. HerolGee

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    he wasn't careless against corrie, he just stepped up for once.

    whenever he steps up, hes out of it.

    80s cream will serially destroy him.
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    Buster Douglas, Oliver McCall, Corrie Sanders, Haseem Rahman.

    The true 4 pillars of heaven. I toast to thee, true heavyweight greats.