Ali was given little chance as Fury is now

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    excuse me while I jab out my eyes with my frantically cut off penus to stop me reading this kind of drivel.


    too late... I read it. OMG,. goodbye Gman who believes undisputed champs are journeymen, you are joining the ignore box.
    Sorry I cant face reading such a post again. Its too painful.
     
  2. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Typical Ali fan response, pretend to be so shocked that you don't even have to engage because you know deep down it's the truth.

    Everyone Ali beat was either a bum or hideously overrated simply due to the fact they fought Ali.

    OMG!!!!....but it's the truth.
     
  3. rossle

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    Ok, all the funnier when Wlad falls:yep
     
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    The Liston that Clay fought would be the Champ in this weak era of heavyweights.
     
  5. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're talking about 2 completely different level of fighters.

    Ali was a gold medal Olympian who at the time was thought to be way to green for a longstanding champion like Liston. He was thought of as a great up and coming prospect who one day could challenge for the HW championship.

    Fury is a nobody who landed a shot at the champion because Wladimir has been dominant for so long, he's beaten every other top 10 fighter in the division already (outside of WIlder.) So instead of having sequels against guys he's already dominated, he's deciding to take on new challengers, regardless of how unworthy they are.

    If Fury beat Wladimir, it would be one of the biggest upsets in the history of the sport. I'd rank it as a much bigger shock than ALi's win over Liston. It would be Buster Douglas worthy.
     
  6. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Based on? Who did he ever beat?
     
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    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Who has Klitschko beat? In fact, who has he fought?
     
  8. lepinthehood

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    Klitchko would knock Liston cold. That's fact.
     
  9. cslb

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    Liston would make Klitschko wet his pants.
     
  10. lepinthehood

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    With laughter as he plodded foward slowly and got his chin cracked with one right hand.
     
  11. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury can certainly talk some innovative smack, he is one weird fighter to watch though, beyond awkward. There's not really a stacked enough division to see fighters climb a ladder to build up to Klitschko so it's hard to gauge many of them.
     
  12. cslb

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    The way Klitschko grabs and holds his current competition, I have a hard time believing he would find anything about Liston humorous.
     
  13. rossle

    rossle Active Member Full Member

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    No it wouldnt:patsch

    Fury is currently about 3/1 whereas he started at 4/1 and there is another 4 months to go. Those odds will keep shortening. Probably go down to about 7/5 or closer on fight night.

    Douglas was about 45/1 so it wouldnt even be close.

    Tyson is real threat and some dont want to admit it but more people will be willing to bet money on Fury than Klitschko.
     
  14. Uhtred5150

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    The OP wasn't saying that Fury and Ali were similar. The Op was saying the press and public attitude toward Fury is similar to the attitude that Clay had before the Liston fight, and then also compares that both Clay and Fury had similar ring experiences in their previous fights beofre the world title shot.

    Not once in the post did they say that Fury is a boxer akin to Ali in boxing style or standard, and therefore, it really isn't in the slightest disrespctful.
     
  15. rossle

    rossle Active Member Full Member

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    Bingo!