Rigo agrees to fight Loma at 126

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mirkofilipovic, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Messages:
    53,088
    Likes Received:
    6,685
    This is 2015 East Side Boxing.

    Opinions are facts, bruh.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Messages:
    53,088
    Likes Received:
    6,685
    Ward/Froch?

    Both my examples I named have included a fighter who is a bit of a caveman, however really elite cavemen who are #2 in the division squaring off with the #1.

    Gonzalez/Estrada?
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2013
    Messages:
    39,120
    Likes Received:
    1,801
    When you're 12... or a mentally challenged and ***ually confused man child in his mid 20's :lol:
     
  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2005
    Messages:
    29,747
    Likes Received:
    8,263
    Add Crawford-Gamboa.
     
  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    38,146
    Likes Received:
    7,717
    Pac has other attributes to make up for what he "lacks" in skill that marks him above some of the fighters who are perhaps more skilled than he is.

    Lomachenko has absolutely proved that he's a top level boxer, how? He's won two olympic gold medals, a feat accomplished by few and arguably has the greatest amateur record of all time, you don't get that without being supremely technically gifted.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Messages:
    53,088
    Likes Received:
    6,685
    'Tis the way of ESB, it seems. Must be a lot of them out there.
     
  7. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    27,489
    Likes Received:
    439
    This. 2 of the greatest amateurs ever, let's see what they've got. Winner gets bragging rights for greatest amateur ever.
     
  8. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2011
    Messages:
    52,105
    Likes Received:
    23,327
    Rigo can definitely win this. But I can see Loma slowing him down with his body attack.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Messages:
    53,088
    Likes Received:
    6,685
    "you don't get that without being supremely technically gifted..." AS AN AMATEUR.

    Sorry but I don't give any credit in professional boxing for what someone accomplished in amateur boxing. Literally zero. And it has led to me having a more accurate grasp on fighters than those who get caught up in irrelevant random amateur achievements and how their skills looked in that sport. They are literally different sports. I understand that many of the physical traits and experiences cross over but that doesn't in any way boost my opinion of them as a professional boxer. They have skills or they don't. If you were watching a boxer train it wouldn't matter if they were a great amateur or a lousy one before then. They are what they are. And the accomplishments don't translate over so that is my reasoning to put zero stock into that.

    "Zou Shiming should have been an ATG... well, ya know, based on his amateur record with 2 Olympic golds!"

    "Yan Barthelemy is a great pro boxer! Well, ya know, based on his Olympic gold medal, physical dimensions, and amateur record!"
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    Messages:
    122,871
    Likes Received:
    34,859
    I thought about Gamboa-Crawford but both were too unproven IMO especially Gamboa who had been so inactive.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    Messages:
    122,871
    Likes Received:
    34,859
    Good shout Froch has underrated boxing ability and a good jab.
     
  12. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    38,146
    Likes Received:
    7,717
    They're fundamentally the same sport with a slightly different rule-set, boxing is still boxing and if you are a skilled amateur you don't somehow become a caveman pro, that's nonsense. Is it a coincidence some of the most skilled fighters of all time were great amateurs?

    Tell me who is more skilled, Jake LaMotta or Rigondeaux.
     
  13. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2005
    Messages:
    29,747
    Likes Received:
    8,263
    Arguably Yuri's most technically sound performance in quite a while, though. Crawford did well to find range after switching to southpaw.

    It remains one of my favorite high speed chess-matches of the past few years.
     
  14. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2005
    Messages:
    29,747
    Likes Received:
    8,263
    LaMotta was far more skilled than he's given credit for being. Maybe you should try another example.
     
  15. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    70,912
    Likes Received:
    27,375
    The only thing I don't like about this matchup is the size difference.... I don't like when smaller fighters need to fight bigger guys to prove their worth (in rigos case, because he cant get any good fights with people his size) it completely waters down the matchups for me.

    Obviously, its an epic matchup based on the skills in the ring and caliber of fighters involved... but should Loma prove to be too big to go along with his quality, what does it prove really? That Rigo has a ceiling weight he cant go past, just like all fighters?

    Not trying to be too negative its just I feel bad for Rigo in a way that hes put in these situations to get his big fights.