Wladimir Klitschko should retire after the fight with Tyson Fury

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by SmokinJoe10, Jul 19, 2015.


  1. SmokinJoe10

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    He's done everything in the HW division, won all the titles, there's nothing left for him to do, and the main reason is because he's 39, there's no point going on too long because other fighters have gone on too long and its damaged them in their long term health. Yes a fight with AJ in 2016 or 2017 would be good, but Wlad will be too old by then anyway.

    Wlad's even said that AJ is the future of the HW divison, so maybe's he hinting that'll he'll retire soon before a bout with AJ.
     
  2. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As long as he feels good, he should try to get Wilder in the ring should be beat Fury.
     
  3. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    yeh.. he does not have much more to give ..
     
  4. SmokinJoe10

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    If the bronze bomber lands a few on Wlad like he did vs Stieverne, I fear for Wlad's health at 39/40.
     
  5. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he should go out the way a true champion does... On his back. That way a new champion would be crowned and the lineage would be in tact.
    By going out on his shield Wladimir would leave the division in much better condition than he found it.
    Of course, it is his health so if he were to retire as champion I wouldn't really blame him. If he did go out on his shield at 40 or older, morons like Dino and HeroldGee would not show him any respect for it and claim he was always a bum, but people like that are losers so whatever. Haters hate.
     
  6. SmokinJoe10

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    :lol:
     
  7. Marty84

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    Wlad would still dismantle Wilder at 39 or 40,but we might have to wait..its sad that it's so hard to get fights made.If he beats Fury there's talk of Glazkov and then maybe Wilder after that.But Povetkin is waiting too,if Wilder gets a bit more exposure in the USA then it could be a big money fight over there in 2016? Either way Wilder can't hide from the top four of five in the division and I'd imagine he's in no rush to get in the ring with he No.1.
     
  8. shortydee

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    I almost agree, but most champs go out on their back at 34-38, Wlad will be 41-42 by the time Joshua or Parker are mandatories, and who else is gonna lay him down.

    We dont even know they'll pan out.

    If Whyte beats Joshua, Lord help the state of HW boxing for at least 3 yrs.:patsch
     
  9. shortydee

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    There is no 100% guarantee that someone is gonna go 70-30 with a 37 y/o Wlad like Vitali did with Lewis, and pass the lineage, even in a win.

    Vitali defeated Lewis by Lewis knowing that at 37, he was bested by an unforgiving Vitali Klitschko.

    Vitali retired to injury in 04, and that created a vacuum until Wlad unified in 07.

    While I don't want a vaccum created, I also dont want to see Wlad laid out at 42 y/o by a 25 y/o Kiwi or a 28 y/o Brit.

    If Wlad were 5 years younger, passing the torch to Parker or Joshua would be fine.

    I think he should win the WBC title, then creamate the titles and let the young lions ( Furys, Joshua, Parker, Ruiz Jr etc,) fight the older lions (Pulev, Potvetkin, Wilder, Chaggy, etc) for the dust. :thumbsup
     
  10. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A lot of solid points there. I'll get one thing clear...although I feel it would be best for the sport/division, I do not have any desire to A great champion laid out at 42 by a much younger prime contender.
    Also, I do agree with your basic point that usually the torch is passed before this point. At 40 years old and Champion for 11 or 12 straight years Wladimir is well within reason to "cremate" the titles if he chooses to.
     
  11. dan4579

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    The only truly ****py ending would be if he chooses to use his status to milk the title, delay mandatories and avoid serious fights until he eventually gets stripped and retires. It's not like it hasn't happened in boxing before.
    Of course, there is no evidence in Wlads record or character that indicates he would take that route.
     
  12. FrankinDallas

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    I'd say fight Wilder after he ends the Fury saga, but I imagine that Wilders' handlers would want to milk their cash cow for a couple years without exposing him to a dangerous boxer, and by that time surely Wlad would have stepped down.

    Maybe one more easy fight in Germany as a bye bye event? Andre Bereto maybe? Oh wait he's already bedn cherry picked....
     
  13. shortydee

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    IF.....and it's a BIG IF, he can beat Fury, AND Wilder, then gives GiftKOV his shot....that'd break Holmes record.

    It'd make him the first HW champion to hold the 5 most prestigious titles simultaneously, and then by tossing ALL 5 titles into the wind, it would literally create a scenario where Ruslan Chagaev, is the LINEAL Champion, leading to Potvetkin Chagaev 2 for the WBA super, Jennings vs Wilder for the WBC, Ruiz Jr vs Parker for the WBO, Martin vs Pulev for the IBF and Browne vs Hughie for the WBA regular.

    A new GOLDEN ERA would be born.

    Sadly, the only time an era is recognized as a golden one, is when the title is passed around like a hot potato.

    And when Wlad leaves, that's what will arise. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
     
  14. uktyson

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    good post it is a big if.i see fury causing more problems than people think.:D
     
  15. brb

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    Why?

    He only has 2 fights that shouldn't be that difficult for him (i.e. Wilder & Glazkov).

    There are several reasons to stay and fight at least twice.

    1) Become 2nd in total HW consecutive title defenses.
    2) Become the 1st HW Champ to have all 5 belts simultaneously.
    3) Improve his legacy by fighting another big, athletic, decorated amateur who is unbeaten (with a lot of KOs and a belt).
    4) Fighting another top 10 HW.
    5) Money.
    6) Fame.