Floyd v Benitez,Whitake,Delahoya at147lbs?

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  1. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IMO Whitaker wouldn't have the power to discourage Floyd and as defensively brilliant as Sweet Pea was Floyd has the hand speed, accuracy and ring intelligence to be able to connect often enough to win a decision.
     
  2. mcvey

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    A thoughtful post.:good
     
  3. mr. magoo

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    Pernell certainly had a more likeable personality. And he didn't make us wait for years to sign for the bigger super fights. Still, to appreciate his fights was an acquired taste. I admired his prowess and skill but never really got excited in any of his bouts and the very same can be said for my feelings of Floyd. I'm leaning towards Sweet pea to take a decision at lightweight but I think money triumphs in any other weight class.
     
  4. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, but I think Whitaker is slightly more active than Floyd and that would give him the nod. Agreed though, it wouldn't be a fan friendly type of fight.
     
  5. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This might come as a surprise.. but a past his prime DLH almost beat Floyd till he gassed late on the flip side...

    A prime DLH at his best weight, many thought lost to a past his prime.. past his best weight and on Coke Whitaker.


    See where I'm going with this?
     
  6. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dunno about that. Floyd at 135 was more exciting to watch, and Whitaker's work rate and punching power were more noticeable at his best weight.

    There may not be that many clean punches landed, but it would be edge of the seat, high-speed chess all the way at that weight.
     
  7. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Huh? if Whitaker could discourage JCC with some sharp counter and lead lefts... yeah, I think he'd give Floyd pause and then some. Nobody is saying, Whitaker by KO, at least not me. What I am saying is, Whitaker had enough pop in his punches when he sat down on them to discourage Floyd. To go further, Whitaker also sat down on his punches more than Floyd did, so if anybody is getting discouraged it's Floyd not Whitaker.

    The big problem for Floyd in this fight is he wouldn't be active enough nor land enough to win a decision against Pea. Pea would always be the slightly more active fighter. With him being a little more active and Floyd not landing as much it's not a good look for Floyd with the judges. Floyd wins fights because even when he's not throwing as much, he still lands at a high percentage and often when he throws. That won't be the case with Whitaker. He won't be active enough nor land at his usual high percentage rate.

    Lastly, Whitaker is MUCH better at leading than Floyd. When push comes to shove and one has to get more active to pull it out. Whitaker would more likely be that guy that Floyd.
     
  8. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get why you might say WW Floyd beats WW whitaker. I don't agree, but I see the argument. Floyd at LW beating Whitaker.. I really just can't see that. I dont' see many if any beating Whitaker at LW, and that is throughout history
     
  9. N_ N___

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    That is surprising. I only watched the fight where Floyd comfortably beat Oscar, dominating the second half. I'll have to search YouTube for the other one. Never seen it.
     
  10. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I think Mayweather loses to all 3.

    Oscar would certainly beat him.

    Benitez has a better offense and = defense

    Whitaker and Mayweather are nearly alike, but Whitaker is the more naturally talented fighter so I would favor him.

    Floyd goes 0-3
     
  11. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Whitaker was a better fighter thn Floyd but I think Floyd matches up well with him.
    I could see Floyd winning a tactical and often boring fight.
    I think Floyd beats Benitez.
    De La Hoya is a toss up. He had a chance to win their fight in his grasp but faded. He was past prime and lived a very reckless life outside the ring.
    In his prime it would of been a great great fight. 50/50 at best for Floyd.
     
  12. Balder

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    I have Oscar winning that fight.

    He would have done so easily had he not forgotten his jab around the 8-9th round.
    ODH Was stopping Mayweather and not letting him get set with his pinpoint jab. It also was immobilizing him for a few moments, had Oscar been a little younger he would have landed a few hooks, and rights behind it.

    Had Oscar not forgotten it there would be no controversy at all. He still did enough to win a decision.
     
  13. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you miss the part where it was a past his prime DLH.. NOT at his best weight.. not having fought in a year? Does any of that ring a bell? Now in STARK contrast we have

    a PRIME Oscar, fight at his best weight, had just fought 3 months earlier... against a past his prime, past his best weight and on Coke Whitaker... and Whitaker in many people's eyes still won.

    Oscar is a terrible terrible example to use when comparing these fighters. If you use that fight as evidence for Floyd, you've already lost the argument.
     
  14. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Saw it the same way, and this was a past his prime, past his best weight, long lay off and living hard outside the ring Oscar and he still accounted well in that fight. Whitaker took on the MUCH better Oscar, and in many peoples eyes still won not at his best.
     
  15. Thread Stealer

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    Oscar didn't forget to stop throwing his jab. He stopped landing it.

    I don't put much stock into Compubox when it comes to punches land, but I think it's more accurate when it comes to punches thrown. That's easier to see and count then to see if they land. DLH kept throwing it but didn't land them.

    Floyd was rather underwhelming that night. Offensively he was pretty poor.

    Mayweather has a better chance at beating Whitaker at 147 than he does at 135, and maybe also 140 too. He would surely have his hands full with the Whitaker at 147 from 1993-94.

    I did an ****ysis of a matchup between those two, I think Whitaker wins a close decision.

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=537170