Going down in weight without losing power

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Ali Frazier, Jul 19, 2015.


  1. Ali Frazier

    Ali Frazier KO ARTIST Full Member

    952
    18
    Mar 9, 2014
  2. Jay2daC

    Jay2daC New Member Full Member

    4
    0
    Jan 10, 2015
    It is possible but extremely difficult. The problem is that when you lose weight, your losing it be getting rid of fat or getting rid of muscle mass. Less muscle mass equals less strength. If you are losing weight by means of cardio expect to lose the strength. If you do not already have a trainer, you should look for one. They are best at being able to help with this kind of issue (at least a real certified trainer). But try to lose the weight by minimizing the cardio time to 30-45 mins and doing circuit training with weights.
     
  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    Are you overweight and trying to lose fat? If yes, then don't worry about losing power. You will gain speed which will make up for the weight loss. Other contributing factors are level of training, do you lift weights, body fat %. Try an include more info for us to help you.
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    Weight loss does not = faster.
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    You'll have to give details if you want actual advice.
     
  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    So a fat guy will be faster than a skinny guy?
     
  7. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    Of course a fat guy can be faster than a skinny guy. It always comes down to the individual.

    Training for speed (if done correctly) increases speed. Losing weight does not in itself make you faster which is what you claimed.
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    I was using it in the context of an untrained fat guy losing weight. Of course they will be faster. Maybe 1% of fat guys will be faster than skinny guys. You DKSAB. You tried saying speed bags aren't useful in another thread and you tried saying running is bad as well. Quit spreading bad information, you're either going to get someone hurt or ruin their training.
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    You stated "You will gain speed which will make up for the weight loss" which is a blanket statement and is also incorrect.

    Next time, if you're using a specific example, you should make it clear, otherwise it makes you look incorrect as it does above.

    This makes no sense.

    In English?

    Indeed.

    Reading comprehension isn't your strong point.

    What I actually said was running with ankle weights puts additional stress on your joints which obviously isn't good for you.

    I also stated that running, being a high impact form of cardio, is rough on your joints.

    Do you dispute any of that?

    Read above and think again.
     
  10. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    What is this the 3rd grade? If we're talking about reading skills then You need to work on yours because I said was "Are you overweight and trying to lose fat? If yes, then don't worry about losing power. You will gain speed which will make up for the weight loss. Other contributing factors are level of training, do you lift weights, body fat %. Try an include more info for us to help you." This does specify.

    Your saying don't do road work because it is bad on your joints. It takes a lot more than you think to wear down your joints. It would be more like running a marathon to do what you're saying running does to your joints.

    Whats next, don't take your daily vitamin because it's man made? The benefits outweigh the bad in just about everything you say not to do.
     
  11. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    May as well be with your reading comprehension skills.

    Even if he's overweight, weight loss does not equate to and increase in speed which was my point.

    Please quote where I said not to do road work because it's bad on your joints.

    Running is high impact and bad for your joints, that's a fact.

    I haven't said anything about the severity of the damage to your joints.

    This just makes no sense.
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    37,070
    29
    Jul 21, 2004
  13. Ali Frazier

    Ali Frazier KO ARTIST Full Member

    952
    18
    Mar 9, 2014
    Ok little bit of information since I just sorta asked and dipped off.

    I'm a lean 205-210
    standing at about 6'2
    Now, as you may or may not know
    the 201+ in the amatures you're risking fighting monsterous fighters standing about 6'4 and up 240-290 because ya know..super heavyweight
    typically
    my first two fights were a guy who was 6'5 the other was 6'9 ...didn't bother me really because I have the speed and footwork and stamina to hang in there with the awkward big type.
    But it's also harder to get fights because so few gyms in my region have super heavyweights
    I was thinking I'd slim down to 195 and just rehydrate to 200 before fights
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    I wouldn't rehydrate in the amateurs since you fight the same day I'm pretty sure. I would cut down to 195lb-200lb. You have a lot of experience and training already so you won't gain much speed if any. Just take the weight out in mostly fat but keep your body fat around 8-10%.
     
  15. JagOfTroy

    JagOfTroy Jag Full Member

    894
    66
    Jul 5, 2009
    You fight the same day but 'typically', they put the heavyweights on the end of the card. So after they weigh-in, they have about an hour or two(depending on how many fights/how fast they go and intermission) to rehydrate before they are up.