When and if Wlad beats Tyson...will he be above Lennox on the ATG list??

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  1. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why did LL avoid WK from 2000-2003?
     
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    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a very good win for Wlad if he wins.

    I think LL would KO Fury pretty quickly, but would he have done it at 39 with 67 fights fought? Possibly not.
     
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    How did you calculate this one C Gay??
     
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    Peter's better than Haye, on par with the others. HoF doesn't have a lot of people who probably belong, don't really think any of the above are at the level of those who are in. Still, its a largely arbitrary benchmark, especially since he barely beat one, and beat a washed up version of the other. Wlad has been champ longer, and been more dominant while champ, and has more overall successful title defenses. I think Wlad very narrowly nudges Holmes right now, or at least will if he beats Fury. But Holmes victories over Ali and Norton, while overstated, are still important enough to make it debatable.
     
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  5. ThatLeftaMarc

    ThatLeftaMarc Beast From The East Full Member

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    Pretty much. :yep
     
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  6. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    I dunno maybe when he came in a a career high weight? :patsch
     
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  7. Cisco Route

    Cisco Route He Who Says Nay banned

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    Call me when any of them get into the HOF...
     
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    hasim rahman is the only possibility, with his poleaxing prime ATG (something K bros can never, ever do, even combining both bros they are well behind Rahman with that).

    though K bros only got courage to fight him once he was shot2shyte, so their claim will never count.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    LOL how are they borderline? because YOU think so?


    then by that criteria anyone can be HoF!!!
     
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    Yep:good
     
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    Those wins are over an Ali who was already showing signs of Parkinson's and a highly disputed "win" over Ken Norton who already had five losses, including to KO loss to a nobody.

    They just aren't worth that much.

    Larry also OPENLY ducked Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas. Openly. He surrendered a belt in fear. He cannot be considered in the same breath as Wlad. He is a maybe number 9-10 on a top ten list at best.

    And this, remember, is coming from a guy who is supporting Lewis over Wlad, not some nuthugger. We just have to be realistic.
     
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  12. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guarantee at least 2 of them get in.

    It's everyone's opinion whether a fighter gets in or not until it is actually announced.

    Are you telling me that you never speculate who you think will make the Hall?

    Don't get mad because Wlad is going to pass your boy. Wlad earned it.
     
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    Rahman lost to Tua and Maskaev before he beat your man.

    Rahman wasn't that good.

    Lennox's record against Rahman: 1-1
    Wlad's record against Rahman: 1-0
     
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    That's not how it went down. You must have forgotten.
     
    Ivo, Jul 25, 2015
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    You must be out of your mind (or a Wlad fanatic) (same thing) if you think they will ever see the hall of fame:nut:patsch
     
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