1. The "deciding" fight? Pac won 2 times before that. 2. He did lose against Mayweather in the biggest fight of his career. That's true.
So why do you think there was a 4th fight? THe majority clearly thought Marquez won the third fight, even Pac fans thought that, I doubt you watched the fight though.
Uh how was I criticizing GGG? By saying Cotto beats Lemieux I'm criticizing GGG? You see how much of a psycho fan girl you sound like?
Cant say I am happy about K2 talking about 164, even as a negotiating tactic. But still, you cannot compare offering a non-title fight between divisions and draining people in your own division. GGG can weigh in as low as 158. If he starts making contenders meet him at 158 for his MW titles I guarantee I will be the first guy to throw him under the bus as well.
No, I did. Live, actually- since you think I only started watching boxing a year ago... And how can you prove the majority thought Marquez clearly won? That's your opinion. I've watched it multiple times. I thought it was a close fight, but Pacquiao threw more and landed more, especially towards the later rounds when Marquez seemed to step off the gas peddle a bit.
I commend you for trying to have a decent unbiased conversation with Xelloss but just wanna let you know it will get you nowhere. Xelloss is a complete hater masquerading as an unbiased intellectual.
No, I was responding to how annoyingly argumentative you are. I make a simple post about boxers fighting the best and you have to someway, somehow incite an argument. I did add that it seems you're very critical of Golovkin as well.
Extremely ironic coming from you. To understate it. You will have to excuse people for having actual principles in how they view things.
http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=360875 HBO poll Pacquiao 12% Marquez 46% Draw 42% http://www.boxingforum24.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=35052 166 had Marquez winning, 33 pac Want me to show you more?
Man, I'm looking at Lemmy's resume, holy ****. It's horrible. It's as bad as GGG's. Who has he fought and beaten? If people criticize this fight, it's for good reason.
It's not difficult at all to say that you'll throw a guy you like under the bus if he does something that everyone knows he won't do. A career MW is not going to all of a sudden start asking other MWs to come in at a CW. And a fight between Ward and Golovkin at 164 would in fact be a title fight. That's technically still a SMW fight and the orgs don't allow you to fight in your own division without putting your title on the line. Cotto is using his status you gain in ring advantages during negotiations. That's a tactic that fighters have been using forever.
If you want to argue that JMM IV wasn't his second biggest fight, then that's your prerogative. But I find people hard pressed to argue against that. The mere fact that they fought 4 times is a testament to the fact they were on very even terms through their first 3 contests. Short of Vazquez's 4 fights with Juan's brother, when was the last time a 4 fight rivalry even occurred? And in the end, it was the deciding fight any way you slice it, because after going through 3 bouts on practically even terms, JMM knocked Pac out - cold. It was an exclamation point on the series. So what was his second biggest fight? If not Juan 4? :smoke