Vitali v.s. Bowe ..

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so you are actually saying that vitali does lose rounds.

    fail,mate.
     
  2. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Not To Bowe.


    You should be embarrassed. the only fail is in your comprehension.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so he only doesn't lose rounds ONLY to Bowe, is what you mean.

    why specifically BOWE, and not other fighters? explain. surely if he can lose rounds to other fighters he can lose them to bowe.

    explain what makes bower special from every other fighter in history, that vitali can win every round vs him ALONE.

    EXPLAIN.
     
  4. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Let me help you, As a reminder the thread is about Bowe Vs Vitali.

    Here is the quote


    "Vitali wont mentally lose it( Like Golota did) , and gets stronger as the fight goes on (He is better conditioned than Bowe) , he also does not lose rounds." ( he will not lose on points)


    Since you need some clarification, and seem unable to understand things without instruction. I have given you what I meant, and what most would have taken it as.

    Hope you understand now your fail.
     
  5. Balder

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    Vitali is the busier fighter and is better conditioned. Bowe wont be able to knock him out. That is my opinion.

    If you think Bowe can win on points , your welcome to that opinion as well.

    I was talking about Bowe, no other fights or fighters, although I think anyone will be hard pressed to outpoint Vitali.
     
  6. HerolGee

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    SO, you claim that out of all the fighters in the whole of history, bowe is the ONLY ONE for which Vitali wont mentally lose it as a telling factor.

    SO you are claiming that out fo all the fighters in history, ONLY BOWE has worse conditioning than Vitali as an important factor.

    or you mean combining these two, only Bowe has worse conditioning AND worse mentality than vitali, therefore Bowe loses?


    YOU MEAN ONLY VERSUS BOWE he does not lsoe rounds, as you have been at pains to point out earlier.
    Though you've not explained why yet other than "he wont mentally lose it" or "is better conditioned"...not sure how these assumptions explain why vitali wont lose, for instance, early rounds to bowe when conditioning isn't a factor.

    on the contrary, everyone reading this forum understands what you have written - you are saying these factors are apply only with BOWE.
     
  7. Balder

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    Your reaching.


    Are you related to Bowe or something?


    Vitali beats Bowe, Prime for Prime. Golota was smashing Bowe, and got frustrated and was DQed.

    Vitali is tough, mentally and physically, He does not stop beating on Bowe, and eventually I see Bowes corner throwing in the towel.

    Bowe will do well enough at the start, but I don't think he will win rounds, he will slowly get beaten. The fight will be stopped with Vitali in the lead on all cards.

    Simple really. That's what I think, nothing more.
     
  8. HerolGee

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    how am I reaching, when its YOU who is reaching when saying that Vitali cannot lose rounds to BOWE as a special case, out of all the opposition in history?
    how am I reaching, when I have history in one hand an an arugment against you, and you have ONE man as your special case?
     
  9. BCS8

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    Bowe has indeed exhibited bad conditioning, whereas Vitali, almost never. However, I assume that we are talking about a prime Bowe
     
  10. BCS8

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    Have to agree. The problem with Bowe is that he is considered hot stuff because he managed to beat Holyfield. He beat Holyfield because he was a whole lot bigger than Holy. Evander even said it - that the only reason Bowe took the fights against him was because he thought that he could use his weight advantage to win. :-(

    Against Vitali he will be facing a man every bit as big as him, a heavy puncher with a uniquely awkward defensive style who likes to counterpunch and with a mean streak a mile wide.

    Pierre Coetzer, a relative featherfist who you couldn't miss even if you tried, gave Bowe a good go, so much so that Riddic k had to low blow him to soften him for the kill.

    Vitali is on another level.

    They'd have to recognize Bowe by his tattoos after the fight.
     
  11. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali quit to lesser fighters. Bowes inside game and jab win it for him.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Bowe did beat a great fighter.Vitali never did.
     
  13. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Truuuuuuue storaaaaaaay!
     
  14. sauhund II

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    let me look into my crystal bowl...

    The only Elite fighter VK ever met was a aging Lewis who already had one foot out the door.....that version of Lewis simply jumped on him and tore his face apart, no finesse, very sloppy nothing but bar room brawling. Despite Lewis's less than stellar chin, huffing and puffing and crashing on his seat during rounds he cut him above the eye, underneath the eye, on his cheek, cut his lips and had VK bleeding heavily from the mouth all by simple walking VK down while falling in after one jab and keep on mauling.....TKO6

    Rid**** Bowe is probably the best close quarter big/tall Heavyweight ever and Bowe would make the mauling VK got from from Lemmie like gentle foreplay....VK has zero inside game, zero bodywork, no uppercut to mention and does not or does not how to throw short hooks up close.

    VK vs Bowe would be a repeat of the Lewis fight except Bowe would also hit VK to the body, hard . He would jump on him like Lemmie did, make him fight on instinct no sitting back picking his arm punches and the reults are the same or even more brutal than the TKO6.

    Even when completely washed up Golata could not get Bowe off him and fouled out twice to escape. there is ZERO quit in Bowe. none, while VK flat out quit in his prime while way ahead against a light punching small Woodpecker in Byrd.

    THe key to beat both K brothers is to jump on them immediately and make them fight not box.

    Bowe by check mate.
     
  15. The Long Count

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    That doesn't guarantee anything. Buster Douglas and Max Schmeling also beat a great fighter.