Multi-dimensional fighters.

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  1. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    he can't adjust?

    8 weight classes dominating wining 4 lineal championships in 4 weight classes/FOTD countless fighter of the year awards, p4p king

    every fighter could only dream of achieving what he has achieved
     
  2. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac isn't multi-dimenstional.

    Ward is the one who stands out imo, he can fight on the outside, the inside at the very highest level.

    Fury can fight southpaw and orthodox and on the inside as well, so i guess we can call him multi-dimensional as well.

    Groves is actually multi-dimensional in my opinion, he can counter you like in and out and be the aggressor as we saw in the first Froch fight.

    This might not be a popular choice, but Khan under Virgil Hunter can fight on the inside and on the back foot as well, of course it is not as efficient when he has the distance with his jab, but under Virgil he showed he can adapt a little.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    How many adjustments did he make against JMM in 4 fights? How many did he make against PBF? I rest my case.:hi:
     
  4. RC31

    RC31 RiGod Full Member

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    I'd be willing to bet that you're not older than 16. Only a kid would reason like this. That, or you're an adult with an IQ <70.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    He also spent most of the Lockridge fight boxing on the backfoot, fighting with a hurt hand.

    Anyone who has read my posts knows that the "Marvin Hagler was a brawler" myth is a pet peeve of mine. He could fight in different ways. Southpaw or orthodox, boxing on the backfoot or pressuring his opponent and bringing the fight to him. He did this against high quality opponents too, not just average fighters. Against Mugabi, he jabbed him silly, but lacked the legs and defensive reflexes at this point to do it throughout the fight. And give Mugabi some credit, he was a good fighter. So Hagler traded bombs at close and mid range with Mugabi and broke him down that way. Against Briscoe, he spent much of it moving backwards, boxing, using his agility. He was the total opposite against Hearns and turned into a bull, he came after Hearns and stuck to him.

    Floyd Mayweather likes to fight in the pocket (Canelo), but can use the ring and box on the backfoot (Corrales, later rounds against C. Hernandez, Pacquiao fight), and has shown the ability to come forward and press the fight behind a high guard (Mosley, Judah). The Hatton fight was a complete performance as he started off using a lot of movement, then would use his reach and speed to hit Hatton with single shots, then immediately clinched Hatton. While the clinching was ugly to watch, it was smart as it disrupted Hatton's rhythm. Then he got the better of it in the clinches as repeatedly dug in right hands to the body with his free hand and used his own dirty tricks against the rough Hatton, beating him at his own game. Then he opened up in the 8th, hitting Hatton from all angles and different ranges (right uppercut to the head up close, straight right from distance, body shots from close to mid range, etc..). Finally he set a trap and lured Hatton towards him, and landed that left hook that dropped him in the 10th

    People often remember Sugar Ray Leonard's strategy against Hagler and the 2nd and 3rd fights with Marvin Hagler and think he usually fought like that. That was actually more of the exception than the norm. He did that fleet-footed style in spots, but mostly fought in a more relaxed flat footed manner, circling his opponent, jabbing, looking to open up with combos. It's interesting how many people get the wrong impression about the fighting styles of Hagler and Leonard. Ray did fight Duran's first the first time in Montreal, but it wasn't a case of him changing his style and fighting Duran's fight. It was a case of him NOT changing his style. He didn't normally fight so fleet-footed like he did in the rematch in New Orleans. This shows how Leonard could use different fighting styles successfully against great opponents in Benitez, Hearns, Duran, and Hagler.

    Bernard Hopkins was effective in different styles. Just the two fights in the middleweight tournament in 2001 alone show the drastic difference in styles he could fight effectively in. A lot of ugly mauling against Keith Holmes, a rough and ugly fight, Hopkins out fighting Holmes up close, as well as outside. Hopkins fought a beautiful fight against Trinidad, brilliant movement and defense, outboxing Trinidad from the outside by either getting off first, or countering him effectively. When the fight was fought at a faster pace in rounds 6 and especially 10, they traded a lot of shots at close range, and Hopkins got the better of it. Trinidad was basically done after the 10th, and Hopkins beat him up in the 11th and finished him in the 12th.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :good
    Excellent post!
     
  7. Sugar Ray May

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    Rid**** Bowe could box , and was great on the inside.
     
  8. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also, Floyd can fight on the inside, as seen in the Cotto and Mosley fights.
     
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