James Toney vs Gennady Golovkin : at 160

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  1. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sadly the middleweight of now is even worse that a midget old welterweight is the lineal champion.
     
  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was stronger than the current MW division.

    Compare

    Nunn
    Toney
    McCallum
    Jones
    Hopkins

    to

    Golovkin
    Cotto
    Geale
    Murray
    Lee
     
  3. Ike-Man

    Ike-Man Active Member Full Member

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    Anyone who thinks Golovkin stops Toney DKSAB.
     
  4. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    The top group is FAR superior. There would be some devastating knockouts if they did a round robin.
     
  5. VG_Addict

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    Yes, that was my point. :patsch
     
  6. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I understand that, I am backing your argument against Rico.:patsch
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    This has nothing to do with Jones his win against Toney was excellent. Toney fought a lot of bums in his career. Got gift decisions in every single weight class he fought in. He is a two time convicted steroid cheat. He never unified. He is a HOFer (depending on whether you think PED cheats should be inducted) but the notion that he is an ATG is funny to me. There is a difference between a HOF fighter and an ATG.
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I don't dispute that which is why Cotto needs to either drop his belt or fight GGG and quit with the payouts and excuses. You have a guy that wants to unify vs a guy that literally is trying to create a 155 pound weight class as if 18 weight divisions isn't enough. It is a ****ing joke. :lol::rofl
     
  9. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    You are bashing Toney's nickname because you don't want to believe Roy beat a fighter with power.. Toney had one punch KO power at the lighter weights and carried it up and hurt fighters at CW and HW.

    Also, I remember reading Toney didn't have a huge amateur back round which explains some of the early bums he fought.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Toney had *some* power at Middleweight. That was it. He and Jones fought at Super Middleweight. James Toney was in no way, shape, or form a power puncher. Ever.

    If I wanted to slight Jones don't you think I would just come out and say it? Jones has enough things to criticize I don't need to try and 'hide' them. His Chin alone is something that can be talked about for days. The guy didn't like getting hit in the face and wanted an easy path to trinket belts. It is what it is. But I am not going to say that his win over Toney was worthless.
     
  11. RC31

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    Imagine all the razor sharp counters GGG would eat to body and head after opening up every time.
     
  12. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    How do you explain Toney hurting HW's?

    You hate him so much that you slight him by slighting other fighters that he beat.

    You have been talking about his chin for years.:lol:


    Not too many people do...

    Moving up and beating Toney was in no way an easy path to a trinket belt.. Toney was thought of as one of the best fighters alive, and there was a big question mark as if Jones could handle Toney's power, and he did.
     
  13. Cisco Route

    Cisco Route He Who Says Nay banned

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    James Toney, a former LINEAL MW champion, holds a KO victory over Evander Holyfield, a former LINEAL HW champion. How many guys can say they hold a KO win over Holyfield?

    Exactly WHO has the Triple Duck ever beaten?
     
  14. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    According to Rico, Toney didn't stop Holyfield.
     
  15. Cisco Route

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    It may have something to do with the large gaping hole in his head..