Stanley Ketchel was better than Tommy Burns

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  1. Mendoza

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    Choysnki's weight is unknown. Johnson’ s ability is the fools gold currency of the board. His career is full of excuses, but the bald truth is he was knocked cold by a man likely under 170 pounds, floored by a man likely 160 pounds, and according to some primary sources out boxed by a man who scaled by 162.5.

    If the heavyweight champion of the world had this much trouble vs. middles or super middles, he’s curtains when faced with a veteran live body who has skills and can punch over 175 pounds which is why he selected easy marks in a lack luster title right that avoided the best.

    Johnson's best wins. 168 pound Tommy Burns rates as #1 or #2, all 5'7" of him. #2 is debatable. Maybe his win over a 156 pound young Sam Langford.

    But I do agree Johnson had an easy time with Ketchel for the most part, as Ketchel lacked skill and was short and light.
     
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  2. SuzieQ49

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    ketchel would have flattened hart. Hart was a joke.
     
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  3. janitor

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    A joke who beat Jack Johnson?

    What evidence do you have from the real physical universe, to suggest that he would have beaten Hart, let alone flattened him?
     
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  4. SuzieQ49

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    Hart may be the hardest hitting 160-165lb fighter of all time, next to Bob Fitzsimmons. Look at his knockout percentage, he knocked out hall of famers, top contenders, he twice put Jack o Briens lights out whom went the distance with everyone. Every heavywight ketchel fought, ended up on the floor

    Hart got knocked out cold by 8-10 wild bill hanrahan :lol: yet this turkey is going to take Stanley's best punches?

    The Johnson decision was highly controversial. I don't believe hart won. It was a robbery.
     
    SuzieQ49, Jul 28, 2015
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  5. mcvey

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    Do you see Jack Johnson's name anywhere in the title of this thread?
     
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