Which all time great Heayweight champs do McCall and Rahman kayo with one shot?

:rofl

 

Lennox who was the best fighter you ever faced.

Well it's hard to say. Once though I shadowboxed four rounds against myself in the mirror and I've never seen someone that good face me.

 

" Yeah, definitely."

 

There was no skilled superheavyweight prior to 1980. So no one pre 1980 beat a skilled auperheavyweight :good

 

We don't know, but we do know Jack Dempsey couldn't take it, because he couldn't take 37 year old fireman flynns right hand :good

 

Well Dempsey at least took punches from guys, who were the size of Rahman and McCall, and bigger.

I think we can back him with a bit more conviction here.

 

I am going to have to call BS here.

Super heavyweights have used the same trainers as everybody else, and the same boxing manuals as everybody else, from the beginning of time.

You can't just pick and chose when size is a relevant argument.

 

The problem with this is that he stumbled directly into the ref's chest before he'd ruled him ready to continue. So he would have had to help Lewis regain his balance and THEN rule him able to continue, which is more rope than a fighter should have.

 

Lewis and Wladimir have the worst chins of heavyweights of their caliber, and that's ok. There are other heavyweights of their caliber who don't have their jabs, their power etc.

Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time and he had ****ty uppercuts and pretty lame punch variety in general.

 

Firstly anyone who thinks there is any similarity between McCall 1, and Rahman 1, is either a Murican or a moron ( which is one and the same tbh ) in the McCall fight Lewis was up, and even though the ref was UNDOUBTEDLY FAIR, and WITHIN the RULES, he was very quick to dismiss Lewis's protestations that he was fit to carry on. In Rahman 1, Lewis was proper fukked. No doubt.

 

Again, I didn't mean to suggest that the ref should have given him more rope. I'm just giving my purely anecdotal impression that refs in previous eras (even the 1970s) were way more inclined to let fighters who made it to their feet continue, even if it meant subjecting them to a dangerous pummelling. Just much less concern for boxers' longterm well-being and more reluctance to declare someone a loser. Guys like Marciano were allowed to fight on in other contexts where modern refs would have almost certainly stopped fights.

 

Why do people like you FABRICATE things to suit your own agenda? There is NO contact between Lewis and the referee from him going down, until he gets up, stumbles BACKWARDS, and then raises his gloves in a defensive position. He does NOT STUMBLE INTO THE REFEREE.


So why lie?

As stated above, it is a fair stoppage, and well within the rules, but you have to ask, if the Yank fighter had gone down, got back up, and shaped up, would the ref have been so quick to dismiss his protestations?

I don't know.

I don't personally believe you can buy a verdict, but I most certainly do believe you can buy ONE official, particularly a Mexican ref or judge.

 

yeah no doubt. but stumbling into a ref's chest deep into a count is a really unusual circumstance. I can imagine a sadistic ref from the 40s being more likely to wave off a fight in this situation than if a fighter leaned into the ropes or was up and glassy eyed.

In any case I think the ref acted properly. Part of beating the count needs to be not falling into the ref.