Lennox Lewis v Rocky Marciano

Lee epperson
Bobby Quinn
Eddie Ross
Jimmy weeks
Gino bounvino II
Layne
Walcott I
Walcott II
Gilbert cardone
Bill hardeman
James Patrick Connolly
Artie Donato
Pete louthis
Bernie Reynolds


Thats 14. Probably a few more hat I missed. Name me 5 other heavyweight champions with more than 14 one punch knockouts?

 

Wonderful story, and probably impressive to halfwits. Here is the reality.

Rahman 6' 3" 82" wingspan.


Tua. 5' 10" 70" wingspan.


Now, what part of Lewis was hanging out in Las Vegas with muppets like Brad Pitt, George Clooney, and some old bird called Julie something or other, rather than prepare for a fight, are you having trouble understanding?

Or are you actually one of those gullible fools who believe Lewis did " exactly " what Manny Steward told him to do?

 

Please, please, please,

how the fukk can you compare Lewis smashing guys like Grant, Golota, and Rudduck in minutes, and Marciano going tooth and nail, with old men, and Light Heavies?

I don't CARE what they were when they were in their PRIMES. All that matters is what they were when they fought Marciano.

I've said it before, and I'll ask it AGAIN. Show me a Heavyweight champion from Liston onward's who could boast " At the highest level of my career, I fought 5 men, 2 Light Heavies ( one of which was older than dirt ), a journeyman, another old guy, and Roland La Starza " and I will show you a guy that could make a whole room go silent with embarrassment.

 

Well I'm sorry if you disagree and perhaps a little disturbed by the lengths you go to include a breath count.

Your observation is that Lewis is no less tired, no less confident, no less in control than in fights he won.

My observation is that the two times Lewis was knocked out he was outpaced. He was unable to dictate the pace. The longer fight the one with Rahman, he was tired.

The other time was a short fight. one and a half rounds. Lewis still under pressure, working harder than he wanted to against a man throwing himself at him and not letting him rest. The level of tiredness was less of a factor but the pattern of the fight was in the same direction.

This does not change the fact that I still think Rocky Marciano is up against it with Lennox Lewis. Lewis was a great fighter and he had a greater number of significant fights at World level than Marciano. I don't understand why you think I would use a lack of experience or greatness against Lewis here? Lewis was very experienced.

All this paranoia from Just pointing out why I think marciano v Lewis is a closer fight than many think?

 

I'm not attacking Lewis opposition here. Lennox beat the best there was around. So did Rocky. Same difference.

I don't see why asking how many great fights Lewis featured in provokes an attack on Marciano opposition?

They both had competative fights.

Maybe you could answer that one?

 

I was pointing out that athletes around Marciano's size have demonstrated the greatest power in their respected sports.

Marciano's power was real and was messured by military sceintists to be nothing short of phenomenal. A single punch from the rock could spot lift a thousand pounds 1 foot.He did not need to grind them down when he landed his best punch it was lethal.

 

Perfectly reasonable.

 

Big Red is correct. It's not size and I am not sure where this fixation on size being of prime importance comes from. Hard punching is an athletic feat best displayed by those who developed an ability to put their body weight behind their punches. With this ability a smaller hwt can hit much harder than a much larger fighter. Louis, Dempsey and Marciano are examples of ATG hwts who had this ability. Of the three punch for punch Dempsey and Marciano probably hit harder than Louis. As per Walcott, Louis was a rhythm puncher and Rocky hit harder with one punch. Sharkey who fought Dempsey and Louis picked Dempsey as the harder puncher. Fleischer who saw all three many times from ringside stated that he felt Dempsey was a harder puncher than Louis. All three were devastating punchers no doubt.

 

Its not a prime importance but it does help with reach. And Lewis and especially Wladimir have used their reach to their advantage very well. Even though they are big men they can't really afford to trade power shots with lots of different boxers through history. So the main advantage is their long reach. Which don't mean a damn thing against Marciano because everyone he ever fought had a longer reach then him and he beat them all and mostly by knock out and they were damaged goods after he was done with them.

 

I don't need to answer anything, due to the fact I am not making outrageous claims. You on the other hand are, with regards to Marciano.

A fighter can only be judged by the " pinnacle " of their career, and Marciano's leaves a lot to be desired by definition of his opposition at the highest level. These are the facts of the matter, no matter how unpalatable they might be to his more fanatical followers.

There is simply no skirting around the reality that at the highest level he beat, old guys, Light Heavies, and a couple of journeymen, that is all.

Obviously, he can NOT be blamed for this, because according to all reliable sources he avoided NO ONE, but the resume speaks for itself. No other Heavyweight champ since would be given the amount of credit that he gets for beating that opposition at the time he fought them. It is as simple as that.

 

Completely uneducated remarks.

 

Marcianos best opposition looks fantastic skillwise on film

 

Utter sh ite.

They can't afford to trade with their contemporaries because the modern heavyweight is so powerful there is a sort of detente regarding open rock em sock em trading. It's almost a return to Fitzsimmons styled trap setting with great jabs thrown in.

Bur Lewis or Waldo would steamroll these old cruisers and barely break a sweat.