Who beats Kovalev at 175?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Kovalev stands too straight for me, he isn't hard to tag and he is a long puncher no short stuff.
    Louis beat 9 world champions and a shed load of contenders.
    Kovalev has beaten a 50 years old man.
    The jury is still out on him, beating a 50 year old man tells us nothing.
     
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Who would he beat on that list????
    15? No
     
  3. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    based on fitz footage i don't think he belongs on that list. judging the fight based on the names on his resume is just speculation
     
  4. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    kovalev and triple g for that matter might run into trouble if they run into a good defensive fighter. hopkins was 50 years old and a naturally smaller fighter. everyone falls in love with the ko but there's lots of guys throughout history that would give both these guys problems. andre ward might be able to beat both of them.
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I think that people might read too much into the fact that the Hopkins fight went the full 12. Kovalev fought an uncharacteristically cautious fight and completely dominated him with no inklings of trouble whatsoever. Relegated Hopkins to the role of completely harmless sparring partner. My take was that he and Jackson knew that Hopkins' only (remote) chance of beating him would be if he rushed in and got timed with some of Bernard's sharp counters. Just my take...



     
  6. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A younger Hopkins. A prime Tarver and Jones. The jury is still out on whether Stevenson can too. A "pre Ward" Bad Chad would be in the conversation if he wasn't so lethaegic at times. Ward if he ever moves up.
     
  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We are not trying to compare Kovalev in any way to Louis are we? K is a huge puncher but that's where the comparison ends. Louis was the most complete hwt champion in boxing history.
     
  8. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kovalev has concussive power at the end of his long punches, but I have not seen him throw short punches with any authority. To compare him with Joe Louis is plain silly. Louis hit with trip hammer force with his short combination
    punching with devastating effect. Kovalev reminds me somewhat of Bob Foster as a lightheavyweight puncher...Now that would be a fantasy fight
    yessir...
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    At this point how can u even compare Kovalev with Franklin Braxton and Spinks let alone Joe Louis??
     
  10. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Hopkins fight showed us Kovalev knows how to box and the Pascal fight showed us he can handle some pressure, no more, no less. It's not enough to formulate a proper opinion just yet. As it is with Golovkin, politics remains the chief obstacle in getting answers.

    Stevenson's reluctance has shaped the narrative, but fans don't want the fight because they envision a blow-out. Adonis' smooth boxing and heavy left-hand counter poses a real threat. Manny Steward thought a great deal of him (as a boxer) and no doubt would have loved to be his second in a showdown that's already a couple of years overdue.

    Then there's Beterbiev who may be next. For all we know this dark horse could be the man...

    Good as Kovalev looks it's hard to know exactly what we're dealing with. I get the sense he's not the force Golovkin is at middleweight.
     
  11. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I wouldn't call Adonis a smooth boxer personally.he's a fast athletic fighter with a top-notch left hook, but his overall boxing skills leave a lot to be desired.

    Definitely a fight that needs to be made though, before he gets any older.
     
  12. mcvey

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    A better question would have been has Kovalev done enough yet to be ranked with the greats at 175lbs ? And imo, the answer is a resounding NO!
     
  13. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kovalev and the word great cannot at this point be used together.
     
  14. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Smooth may not be the right word though he picks his spots well.
     
  15. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    People are overating him for sure but then again every light heavyweight that ever fought 10 years ago and before would beat him.