Lennox Lewis v Rocky Marciano

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Perhaps he is a tad thicker boned but we will never know how much of his excess was due to the Times and training, dietary trends of his day.

I think what is undeniable is that the weight differential between Marciano, Tua and Norris shaped guys would be much closer if they were all born as they were but shared the same era.

 

Was this sarcasm? The idea that Fury would have been a stumblebum in the 1940s or 1950s is hard for me to fathom.

 

Ok, so Norris debuts at 199 in June 86 aged 19, it took him until Aug 1990 to get over the 220 mark. 4 years 2 months.

Tua debuts at 201 in Dec 92, aged 20. 4 years and 2 months later he was having his 9th fight at 220 and above, and in fact would never get below 220 again.

Norris on the other hand was able to have another 32 fights below 220, after first getting above that weight. So I really don't get where you are coming from making a direct comparison between the 2 men other than the fact they are both listed at 5 ' 10" with 70 " wingspans.

On the subject of wingspans didn't Marciano clearly state on Australian TV that his was in fact 67" and not the 68" some of his fans claim?

And No i don't need to compare boxing to anything, and I am not interested in prowess, as it has less than eff all to do with biology, particularly to a guys natural age, size, and weight. Fighters with great prowess have it DESPITE their size and weight.

 

So there you have it folks.

David Tua, a less skilled, Fat and shorter man than Marciano. Goes on to become a beast in the Heavyweight division. He even had The great 6.6 Lennox Lewis on his bicycle in their fight. He had many champs out on their back in his career.

Yet Rocky, Who was taller, Equally as powerful with 2 hands, had more skill and stamina, and was a world champ by beating ATG fighters.. (and never lost.)

He could not compete in the modern era... because... err.... Training techniques?

 

You must have been told a million times not to exaggerate.

Lewis was 6' 5"

Marciano was only half an inch taller than Tua, but with a wingspan 3" inches shorter if you believe Rocky himself, or 2" shorter if you believe his fan boys.

And if you honestly believe this was 238 pounds of just fat, perhaps the optician is beckoning.

[url]https://youtu.be/dEqj382c0Hg?t=21[/url]

If you think there is 23 pounds of fat to be stripped from that frame, which would have made him exactly the same as the fat Italian geezer in a suit which was the walking around weight of Marciano, then you must live on a different planet.

 

Norris weight moved up 15lb in the first 12 months. Practically Identical to Tua. Yes Norris stayed within the 217 mark a bit longer but what's 3pounds?

yes Tua put 13lb on the first year, another 4lb the second year, dropped 10lb for one fight the 3rd year but on average was stuck at 226 by the fourth year and fith years.

The comparison is here is a guy as close as you can get height weight and reach to David Tua who maintains a weight for as long, consistent and as close as you can get to David Tua over four years who just "decides" to be a cruiser. What don't you get?

 

Tua was somoan. If any of you knew anything about somoans is they are fat af and put weight on easy af. Had nothing to do with training, it had to do with genetics. Marciano was Italian and Italians are naturally skinny. Which means it was hard af for Marciano to put on weight.

 

I think that's a bit of a sweeping statement. "Italians are naturally skinny and somoans naturally fat" so that's all there is to it..atsch

 

I really do not understand how good boxing minds could argue so heatedly against Marciano. What's the agenda here?

The guy was an absolute credit to the sport, trained like an animal, hit like a hammer, exhibited more or as much fighting heart than anyone. All the attributes those who know the sport look for in an ATG champion Rocky exhibited. He would be a challenge for any hwt champion to beat. Whether he would win or lose any specific imaginary bout is meaningless. He was one of hwt Boxings ATG champions. Period.

 

Why are you deliberately lying in a rather pathetic attempt to defend your own agenda.

I'll say it again. It took Norris more than 4 years to bulk himself up to 220, and above. By that time Tua was having his 9th fight at 220 and above.

Furthermore in less than 3 months aged 26 Norris dropped 23 lbs in weight. Something the 26 year old Tua could never have done.

Yet still you persist in making a direct comparison between 2 fighters that have less than fuk all in common other than height and reach.

At 225 Tua just looks like a fit guy, whereas at 225 Norris looks like a roided up body builder in a boxing ring. No comparison whatsoever.

Hence the reason Norris can stop pumping iron, or taking " supplements " and lose 23 lbs in less than 3 months. Again something that Tua could never do in a million years at the age of 25 and over.

Frankly your comparison is moronic.

 

I don't think that anybody disagrees with the vast majority of your comment (just the underlined sentence, to varying degrees).