Ketchel vs Johnson news read.

I study films ,have magazines going back to the early 50s ,over a hundred books on the subject ,and boxed ,gloved and bareknuckle.When you call someone out in my country you are inviting them to step out the door for a decider,I dont get your numbers and dates sentence.Ps post a photo of Johnsons eye please.

 

I started watching boxing in1958,how about you? Im not a historian ,just a fan.The difference between us seems to be in how we perceive ourselves ,I think you know what I mean.

 

I dont know why you bumped this thread Mendoza. Its only embarrassing to people like you who want so badly to believe that Ketchel had a snow***** chance in hell with Johnson.

 

Gunboat Smith was at ringside and sparred with Johnson for this bout. He stated flat out the bout was faked. Johnson could have knocked Ketchel out at any time he choose and that the KD of Johnson was also faked. I see no reason to discredit in any way his eye witness and probable inside observations and comments.

 

Astigmatism is easily corrected by wearing glasses, in my case it was shown by a blurring of vision at long distance. My eye is shaped like a rugby ball.I've no idea why you chose to unearth an 8 years old post and I could care even less.
Perhaps you have too much time on your hands?

 

Just because Perry thinks Ketchel legitimately hurt Johnson doesnt make it so. Johnson gave Ketchel a hellacious ass whipping without even trying. Literally he wasnt even trying and he cut ketchels lips, cheek, closed an eye, knocked out his front teeth, and on Ketchels own words left him a physical wreck for six months and unable to eat solid food for three weeks. You really want to pretend its some feather in Ketchel's cap because Perry imagines that Ketchel made Johnson "stutter step" on the way to doing all of that to him while literally carrying him??? Jesus, some of you guys with an agenda get so ridiculous at the things you will grasp onto in order to try to satisfy yourself.

 

I hope you are not confusing me with someone who gives a flying f*ck what you think?

 

Mendoza,

I wouldnt mind seeing those original pictures of the bruises and swelling that you said you would produced, please. I am not sure if you ever did post them but i cant remember ever seeing them.

If i recall correctly, Johnson didnt ever claim a fixed fight as such. But as suggested earlier in this thread, he toyed and carried Ketchell. And then took a little fall so that it would sell the films. Ketchell got excited at this point and came wildly at johnson where Johnson caught him clean.

Like (i think) most, i believe this version. If it is true, you need to ask yourself, was this the bravest move of all time by Jack Johnson. Supposedly the most hated fighter ever, in a crooked and corrupt time, having allegedly been previously robbed of a fight with Hart due to his colour, and waging a war with the white race, in a fight where all the judges and decision makers were white.

He takes a dive and gives them a reason to take his title away if it goes to a points decision. I think this was a huge gamble, no matter how far he had been outclassing Ketchell.

I had always thought this was the last scheduled round of the fight which i understand now was not the case as there were still 10 rounds to go (this is correct i think). Either way, as others have comment, Johnson was falling or moving forward when the punch landed. Given that Ketchell had thought he knocked him down fairly (assuming it wasnt fair) it must have been a pretty clean punch and had to shake up Johnson a bit. Full credit to him for getting up and if he looked a little hurt, perhaps this is why.

 

He never posted them and he never will.:deal

 

The film shows Johnson held Ketchel up. It was like adult sparring with child.