Lennox Lewis v Rocky Marciano

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I think you have become very confused.

Where does knockout percentage prove which fighter was less physically enhanced?

Both guys were a product of their environment. They were as identical as two guys can be with height weight and reach. Then One of them became a cruiser and one did not.

Pity you can't accept factual evidence.

 

Translates to, oops I have fukked up big time here because the KO ratio proves unequivocally that Tua was a far more powerful natural Heavyweight than the pumped up PED using Norris, no matter how tall they both were, or the size of their wingspans.

No problem kiddo. I understand it is very hard for you to take your medicine like a big boy.

 

I can take that I never said Norris could punch. I can take that Tua was the puncher. you have my heartfelt agreement on that one. Although what this brings to the debate only the good Lord knows.

Size never has had anything to do with being a puncher. Buster Mathis and Ali were both bigger all round than Joe Frazier. I don't even need to mention Carnera do I? If you want to make a fool of yourself over that and the weight of fruit I really don't mind.

But here's the thing, Norris and Tua had the same height weight and reach as heavyweights. Then one of them became a cruiser.

As a heavyweight Norris beat some good champs. His resume stands up rather well. It's not like he was ever in the wrong weight class as a heavyweight. He just dropped down.

 

No here is the thing.

Show me an example of David Tua, where you can categorically state there is room on that frame to get to 1 anything, never mind 195, or even 190 like Norris did. Until then don't bore me with your fantasy driven descriptions of 2 men who you desperately want to claim were of the exact same build when it is clear for all to see, that they were not.

 

We never saw Tua Debut in the 1950s. If he and others with his frame did we might understand where his body under traditional methods might have started from. He was very much a product of his historical environment.

You keep saying Tua was this natural 230 pounder. He carried it well, I agree, but I can't ever remember thinking he looked thin. Ever. how come when Tua was smaller say 220, was this (if his body was crying out for 230) presumably when he was underweight? Then once this weight, why was it when he had already grown this big from 201 did his weight of (his still growing 220) did he drop 10lb just like that for his next fight?

I have heard that Michael Spinks had to lose weight in order to build weight. He needed to build the right kind if excess weight and a whole programe was devised especially for him. I don't know what Tua did but he went from 201 to 210 to 220 then all the way back to 210 before he could reach 229 and above.

 

Tyson beat a ripped muscular unbeaten reigning champion Tucker
in 1987 by wide point decision(Maybe Tucker won only 2 rounds)
Lewis beat a fat nobody-maybe drug problematic-fat Tucker
in 1993.

Povetkin destroyed the Lewis destroyer Rahman easily.
By your opinion Povetkin is much more better than Lewis.

Tyson beat Ruddock two times easily.Lewis beat a bad version Ruddock .It wasn't a great performance by Lewis he landed a lucky
punch in the first round and knocked out Ruddock in the second.
(But how **** was this version Lewis against Bruno, bum Jackson or Mccall).To me Lewis' performance against Tucker wasn't impressive
at all considering the fat out of shape faded Tucker could chase
Lewis. (I think this version Tucker was an easy Hide victim in 1997)
Was Hide better than Lewis ? By your opinion, yes.
Lewis-Tucker was in 1993 and the Hide-Tucker in 1997.Not a big difference( considering the Tyson-Tucker was in 1987.)
Funny a blinded Lewis fan like you proved Lewis' ****ness.
Thank you!


Otherwise Tyson could outjab Tucker and Ruddock Lewis couldn't oujab a fat 42 years old Holmes victim Mercer.

Otherwise this common opponent thing proves nothing
the prime Tyson was faster and harder puncher(Ask Botha!) than Lewis with better skill and chin.Lewis defensive skill was holding
and stepping back lame tactic.He was similar fighter like James Smith
without good chin and great punching power (I don't know only one case when Lewis could break bone.)

 

Orlin Norris was robbed against Tucker though. Nobody would fight Tucker or Norris so they fought each other. After he was robbed Norris had to turn into a cruiserweight to get fights after that.