Vernon Forrest vs. Wilfred Benítez

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Contested over twelve, at 147lbs.

    Two extremely skilled pure boxers, arguably near the #1 spot in that department in their respective eras, though both were overshadowed by overall greater fighters.

    Each lost to guys they shouldn't have, but very late in the game in both cases.

    Benítez in his lengthy prime spanning eleven years only lost to a pair of All Time Greats and the much bigger and beastly Hamsho.

    Forrest arguably never lost during his - you could argue Mayorga caught him at the very back end of his prime, but he was also eleven years deep into his pro career when that happened.

    Benítez was 123-6 in the amateurs, Forrest 225-15 and was an Olympian.

    h2h, both rank very highly at welterweight but there are styles out there which could be anathema to both men even in their primes. You won't find too many superior pure boxers at the weight in history, though.

    Forrest had 2" of height and 3" of reach on Benítez and was a master of exploiting those advantages, which he usually held over most opponents. Benítez, however, may have been the more well-rounded and possessed the higher ring IQ (which is a mouthful, as Forrest had quite a high one himself)
     
  2. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Tough fight for both fighters.

    Forrest frustrates Benitez by tying up or smothering, He uses his height and jab well enough to win a ugly Decision.
     
  3. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Close one, this may be slightly controversial, but I think Benitez has the stylistic advantage here. I can see Forrest catching air all night, I'm just hesitant whether Benitez lands enough back to make it indisputable.
     
  4. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm leaning toward Benitez bc of the Quartey and Mora fights.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Benitez beats Forrest via El Radar...he was too gifted for Forrest.
     
  6. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not sure why. Neither was during his prime.

    I think very highly of both men and I think this is a very interesting match-up. Kudos, sir.

    Personally, I favor Forrest. He had the stuff to be an all-time great, in my opinion. The way he handled Mosley in comparison to De La Hoya told me that. I think he fights Benitez similarly to Hearns by jabbing and being aggressive, but he commits less to single power shots and that helps him land a bit more and he scores a UD.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Both highly-skilled fighters but I think this is a bad style/skill matchup for Benitez. I see Forrest being able to outscore him from the outside pretty comfortably.

    BTW, the contrast between Forrest and Benitez' early careers is pretty funny. One became the youngest champion of all time, the other might have had the slowest, most drawn out career start for a top contender ever.
     
  8. Jester

    Jester Active Member Full Member

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    Leaning towards Benitez, but it could go either way.
     
  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice post

    I think Benitez would win a close decision. He'd make Forrest lead, then counter, probably off the ropes quite a bit. Benitez had major problems with Hearns but Forrest didn't quite have the height and reach of Hearns, and was less powerful.
     
  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jesus Christ, Vernon Forrest is being SOOO overrated here.

    This fight would not have been close. Benitez would have TOTALLY outclassed Forrest. Pretty one sided fight.
     
  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Why? Can you please explain what we're missing?

     
  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vernon Forrest was simply not in Benitez's league, nor did he have the style to give Benitez problems.

    Forrest was a GOOD fighter who had the perfect style to beat Mosley. That's all he was.

    Benitez was not Mosley. If we're talking about the Benitez that beat Palimino, then this would not be a close fight. Benitez would be a step ahead all night long, and would keep Forrest honest with his right hand leads.

    You can reference the Leonard fight, or the Hearns fight, but Vernon Forrest was simply not remotely CLOSE to the level of Leonard and Hearns, especially not in the handspeed category, which is a huge reason why Benitez was so ineffective against those two.

    So once again, Benitez beats Forrest by a mile.
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You don't need to be nearly as good as Leonard or Hearns to beat Benitez (ask Bruce Curry). And I'm a fair guy so I won't hold the Moore fight against him.






     
  15. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vernon was special, but Wilfred defined special. Benitez over Forrest by wide UD.