Ketchel vs Johnson news read.

Two c*nts tgether ,you deserve each other.

 

More cursing.

As a final point. Johnson was hit with that right hand and it appears to jolt him. Whether the bout was fixed is an entirely different story. I was convinced it was via Gunboats interview. Now with some reflection I am not sure. Could Johnson have ended the bout any time he desired? Certainly the KO makes this seem likely. One thing though is this bout looks like most of Johnsons title bouts. Johnson is playing with Ketchel and in the process destroying his face. I am finding it hard to believe Ketchel would agree to take such a pounding and such damage in a fake bout. That right hand from Ketchel in round one was a real punch so both men were throwing meaningful blows. The manner in which Ketchel set Johnson up for that right hand I am not sure one would see in a fake or fixed bout.

 

Apart from Mendozy who will believe anything negative against Johnson, no one else agrees with your interpretation of the first round.Not the contemporary press of the time ,nor Adam Pollack who has just written two critically acclaimed volumes on Johnson , nor McGrain who is even handed in his opinions,on this forum
One fighter was trying ,one was not.
You're ok you have a partner now in Mendoza the famous Johnson hater, I'm sure you will make a good double act .

 

I am a big fan of Johnson as demonstrated in my top 10 listing.

Any person with eyesight can see Ketchel landed that right hand and there was an effect from that right hand. You stated there was no right hand. You were wrong. If you want to play baby games and now state you never made that claim or are covering your eyes and refuse to admit a right hand landed....well you are just showing your stripes.

 

I've no interest in where you rate Johnson.And I've no interest in talking to a fool any longer.I've stated my position but you wilfully refuse to understand it.

Last communique
DOES ANYONE ELSE AGREE WITH YOU?

 

I agree with the landing of the punch. It seemed to me to be clean adn i dont really see the arm blocking it that others seemed to. But i cant agree tha the stutter is there on tape, to any degree other than what any human being would feel after being hit with a punch from Ketchel. It created zero problems for Johnson and had zero effect. I am sure it did hurt, as would any punch which lands clean on any fighter. Johnson was not Superman, he felt pain when hit by a good shot and had to absorb several good shots. Just like Ali, Jeffries, McCall, Chuvalo or anyone else you want to put in there would have if hit by the same shot.

I just cant see how that particular shot tells us anything about anything. I havent seen the fight in full but i would be stunned if Ketchell didnt land at least a few more of those punches throughout the fight. I dare say that any fighter that ever went 10 rounds also landed similar punches. For what it is worth, Johnson landed equally good punches immediately after the punch, didnt he?

 

My intent was to point out a good punch from Ketchel. That's it. To me it seems as if Mcvey took all this as some sort of an attack on Johnson. Obviously it was not at any time an attack on anyone. I have stated repeatedly my observation was not intended as an a attack on johnson. .

I found it interesting because if you watch closely, as you must do to see idiosyncrasies with films from this era, you can see Ketchel set Johnson up for this punch. To me this is quite interesting and I thought it would be interesting for the purists on these boards but instead I was attacked.

 

In my estimation watching the video Johnson does a studder step right after the punch lands. Was he knocked of balance? Stunned for an instant? Who knows BUT the studder step correlates exactly with the landing of the punch.

 

You came on here trying to say that Ketchel staggered Johnson. He didnt. Period. Nobody other than a confirmed Johnson hater/lunatic agrees with that assessment. This entire thread, in fact, was started as a weak attempt by that nutjob to descredit Johnson by saying that he was hurt by a MW. Nothing could be further from the truth as evidenced by the ringside reports and the films of the fight. Nobody ever said Ketchel didnt land a single blow. What we are saying is that no blow by Ketchel had any appreciable effect on Johnson or the outcome of the fight including that fake knockdown. Pretending that Johnson was rocked or that he had a big swelling on his jaw, neither of which is supported by any photographic evidence (and there are films and good quality photos of each to refute such) doesnt change that. Ketchel was literally handled like a child. In fact it might be one of the least competetive championship fights you will ever see. When the champion is carrying the challenger and trying not to stop him and still does that kind of damage to the challenger then challenger doesnt have a look in. Period. No amount imagined "stutter steps" is going to change that.

 

STUDDER STEP
There is no word in the English language employing these letters in this order. It is the fantasy of a self appointed nonentity who sees what he wants to, not what actually occurs.

 

Studder step is common boxing terminology.

As for Komton. He first denies the punch. Then when he has to admit there is a punch he then has no other retort Than to attack. A punch landed solid and immediately Johnson does a studder step. Call it what you will.

Ever wear 4-5 oz horse hair filled gloves? Like a brick. There is no embarrassment being hurt by one of Boxings hardest pfp punchers with these type gloves no matter who you are.

 

I've a pair hanging up in my conservatory.Granny ,suck ,eggs? Give it up.atsch

 

Go back and reread every one of my posts. You will find no instance of me denying ketchel ever landed a punch. What I denied was that ketchel ever hurt Johnson. Its all there in black and white. I stand by that. Nobody else here agrees that Ketchel hurt Johnson either. As usual you are talking out of your ass. If (and its a huge "if") Johnson was hurt at all by Ketchel it was on the point of his knuckles from repeatedly hitting Ketchel in the face but I doubt that made him "stutter step" either.

 

So do I. But they hang in my audio video room.

I would not want to be hit by them no matter whose fist they were protecting. As mentioned like bricks.