Lennox Lewis should have been the undisputed heavyweight champ earlier than 1999

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  1. Boxing125

    Boxing125 Active Member Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis could have achieved greatness even earlier if he had been given the chance in 1993 against Riddck Bowe OR in 1996 when he won a court case to fight Mike Tyson for the WBC title but instead accepted stand aside money because Lewis was unsure about taking the fight at that moment.

    Holyfield after beating Tyson twice only faces Lewis two years later - then Lewis is robbed of victory - then Lewis is finally recognised as the best heavyweight champion late in 1999 - at 33 years old. There is no other ATG heavyweight who first became recognised as the best heavyweight champion at this old an age ( except for JJW). Lewis could easily have achieved this distinction 6 years earlier. He then would have faced the likes of Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe when they were at a younger age giving Lewis a greater claim to greatness.

    Lewis was probably the greatest heavyweight of the 1990s but the fact that he wasn't American didn't help ( as he would not generate as much interest or money)

    Also champions Bowe, Holyfield, Moorer, Foreman and Tyson did not give Lewis his shot from 92-99 which just delayed the opportunity that Lewis deserved as soon as he KOd Ruddock in 1992. Also the Oliver Mccall defeat set back Lewis's career by about 5 years.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think an earlier version of Holyfield would have beaten Lewis tbh.
     
  3. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Your last sentence sums up a lot of what is wrong with the rest of your post.

    A man who lost to McCall like that is a long way from a sure-thing to defeat all those others guys you talk about.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    :deal /End thread.

     
  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    (just kidding around). You make a plausible argument about how things might have played out had he been given chances sooner, but your assessment seems a bit bold, given the knockout losses.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed,

    While his post makes some valid points a lot of it is just " shoulda" " coulda" and "woulda" type logic.
     
  7. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    Lewis would not have really fought a meaningful Tyson anyway,up until 96/97 though I like Tysons chances even in those years its a 50/50 for me..holyfield was the best I think in the years he fought Tyson though I like lewis anyway...for me he is easily top 3 all time HW,for his accomplishments and for dominating a tough 90's era which imop is the best era thus far.Bowe would have changed his status had he defeated him for sure.Though its safe to say lewis easily ranks over him,as Bowes resume is extremely weak,he beat a 205/210 pound Holyfield twice that's all.
     
  8. Boxing125

    Boxing125 Active Member Full Member

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    The McCall defeat was one magic punch and even then Lewis was stopped standing up. That does not excuse other champions avoiding him Lewis needing to wait another 3 years before he could fight for the WBC championship. Lewis had a few technical issues until Manny Steward became his trainer but the WBA/IBF champions throughout the 90s clearly avoided Lewis.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bowe clearly ducked him when he had the title and so yes I think he could have become the undisputed champ earlier than he did though his reign would not have been long based upon his flaws that was exploited by McCall.

    Holyfield the warrior that he was actually signed to fight Lewis in Nov 94 but Holyfield lost his next fight to Moorer and even if he hadn't Lewis lost to McCall later that year and would have had to face his mandatory prior to Holyfield.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/16/sports/boxing-holyfield-lewis-set-bigger-bouts-later.html

    Lewis didn't step aside against Tyson because he was unsure it was a business decision that made sense. He could face Tyson for the WBC or he could step aside get $4 million for nothing and face Tyson later that year for the WBC and the WBA belt Tyson had won from Seldon. Why fight for one title when you could fight for 2 and get paid more to do so, it's a no brainer, he couldn't predict that Tyson would dump his belt to face a supposedly shot Holyfield.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I think the thread title should changed using the phrase " could have been" and not necessarily " should have been." His becoming lineal champ was contingent on weather or not he " could have" beaten Rid**** Bowe in 1993. Not "should have."
     
  11. Titan1

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    I hate to say it, but Bowe going to beat Lewis in 1993 anyway.The later version of Lennox would probably win a close one.
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I tend to agree. Lewis was still improving in the early 90s. Really good chance that Bowe catches him and hurts him.

     
  13. Boxing125

    Boxing125 Active Member Full Member

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    That doesn't make sense seeing that Lewis beat Bowe in the olympics. Bowe gave up his WBC belt to face Holyfield in a re-match rather than face Lewis, Bowe's management saw Lewis as too big of a risk.
     
  14. Azzer85

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    Tyson didn't drop the belt to avoid Lewis, he did it to face Holyfield for more money.

    Tyson got a record payday for Holyfield in 96 to the tune of $35m. Money which he would not have got for Lewis.

    Money which he did eventually make, 6 years later when they did eventually fight, after years of the fight being built up.
     
  15. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And do you know that for a fact or do you want to believe that??