Are fighters the same in every era?

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What I mean is do you believe in weak eras, or would a fighter's relative standing be the same no matter which era he fought in?

    Can you think of any that shone in their era who would be nothing special now, or is class still class?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury would not be rated no 3 in the 70's or 80's, and in those eras 75% of Wlad's challengers would not have received title shots.
     
  3. rossco666

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  4. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Richard Dunn, Jean-Pierre Coopman, Alfredo Evangelista, Tex Cobb, Terry Daniels, Ron Stander, Jose Roman, Lucien Rodriguez, Marvis Frazier, Scott Le Doux, Scott Frank, Lorenzo Zanon, Leroy Jones, Leon Spinks, Steffan Tangstad and Chuck Wepner could all receive a title shot in the 70s/80s, I'm pretty sure so could 75% of Wlad's challengers...
     
  5. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good point! Ali and Holmes feasted on a lot of journeymen, and totally got away with it, per usual.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think that the difference between a weak era, and a strong era, comes down to four or five fighters.
     
  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think class is class to an extent. I think potentially class is always there. The key thing for any fighter is having enough opponents to provide enough resistance to develop.

    Mostly great fights make great fighters.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    mcvey was pointing out Fury is rated the 'generally considered' third best Heavyweight. Some of those listed may have indeed got an alphabet #3 rating (or higher :shock:), but there was not a time other than when Neon Leon was champ that any of those listed were considered one of three best fighters of that time by 'sane' judges.

    We can all give examples of Heavyweight champs feasting on the feeble in every era.
     
  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Certainly with the Heavyweights!
     
  10. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you suggesting that there are double standards at play when evaluating Ali???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. rossco666

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    This

    Fury is a ****ing embarassingly **** #3 rating. There's not a pound of that **** hanging the right way, and he's clearly ****. I will do a perma ban bet that he's stopped inside 3 rounds.
     
  12. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He also said that 75% of Wlad's challengers would not have received a title shot in the 70s/80s...
     
  13. uncletermite

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    you're right he most likely gets ranked number TWO in the 70's....He was 6'9 260 plus and he can actually box and move he has a excellent jab and jabs is what Ali got flustered with,Norton showed this...Fury is better than Norton at EVERYHTNIG.little J.young outboxed Foreman am I to believe A 6'9 GIANT cant out box then poor stamina Foreman?you are delusional.The truth is Fury is somewhat a bigger Ali in his style though he can also fight on the inside,you may rank fighters on popularity however again I go by REAL abilities.Its not a question of overall era of better fights its based on the fighters,do you really think Quarry would beat Fury?Please,guys like the stand still brawlers which the 70's consisted mostly of would all lose to him,Ali,Young and Foreman since he can punch all have the best chances but to assume Fury would be a joke shows your ignorance.Ali couldn't even defeat a 5'11 205 pounder who blocked with his head,yet the super HW's of Wlads era who are around 6'4 240 stand no chance?:lol:
     
  14. uncletermite

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    Absolutey all eras are different,with the exception of Marcianos era I would say every other one progressed a bit better than the last.i don't see many fighters from past eras from Sullivan to Marcianos going into post 60's eras and doing well.
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You probably have much more tangible differences between era's, at lightweight for example.