How did 190lb Jack Dempsey DESTROY super-heavyweight 240lb Jess Willard?

But would jess even have recieved that much damage after so few punches with the NASSA crash helmet lining technology filled 10oz gloves?

 

Hard to say, but the kinetic force of the punch, would have been almost exactly the same.

 

Oh yes that punch and the sequence of it was perfect. Where he had his feet at the time he pulled the trigger was perfect too.

Guys get dropped in sparring with 18oz gloves too so Dempsey still hurts Willard, but compound fractures (if that's what he had) I'm not so sure. An awful lot of technology goes into developing the high impact material used in gloves now.

 

6'1 is probably a better height then 6'7 in general terms. Better mobility and coordination.

 

It's not null and void at all. I think the modern technology makes it less effective with the same number of blows. I don't think it unreasonable for the same man to require more punches to make the same effect. The gloves are twice as big!

 

I think we have had a thread on this before, but it seems that Jess' injuries were a bit inflated by the press. If memory serves (and it may not) he drove he and his wife back to Kansas a few days later, hardly the type of thing one would want to do with all those supposed facial fractures... especially on 1919 roads with 1919 auto suspensions.

 

His injuries were exaggerated, but he definitely had facial fractures.

You can see them on the film, and he had visible dents in his head, for the rest of his life.

It would probably be a bit too rich for most modern officiators.

 

I agree with McGrain. I think the Willard kayo is seriously impressive even now. I don't see many people replicating it, because not many are as aggressive as Dempsey in that fight. Frazier and Marciano would wear Willard down and Louis would pick him apart, but blow him away? I doubt it.

 

Of course modern gloves cause knockouts. And yes I know they happen all the time. Mostly the guys hitting each other are the same size.

All I am saying is it must be harder today for a much much smaller man to achieve what Dempsey did with new gloves against a man that much bigger.

It was a disturbing beating. Seeing that in colour would be pretty grizzly stuff. But the equipment was different and so was the officiating.

Do you think Dempsey would opt for bigger gloves than he hit Willard with in real life or do you think he would say "no, I think I can do more damage with theses old ones"?

 

Sorry. Just not that impressed in the context of great title fights. Willard never was a seasoned, developed pro, then more or less took 4 years off away from the game, entered the ring undertrained and over-old. He was a big piece of ripe, low hanging fruit.

More impressed by Marciano, Liston, Clay and Tyson's title winning performances.

 

But do you think Dempsey would chose 10oz gloves from 2015 to hit Willard with or the little horse hair gloves from 1919?

 

Could he have asked for a less mobile, slower and slower-witted, unpracticed and older champ upon which to turn this trick?

I understand he didn't have a choice of champs to beat. And the manner in which he did it was impressively emphatic... but it is a bit overrated.