Ronda Rousey/Floyd Mayweather

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  1. latineg

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    I am way bigger and stronger than you :bbb

    don't ever try to sound tough on here again :hey

    but yeah, I agree, I think Mayweather would be able to land on Ronda.

    I think a guys mma champ takes out Floyd pretty easy however.
     
  2. Dos Huevos

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    Lord knows how I feel about Rousey but it is interesting the social dynamic at play here. Her challenge has gained steam in the court of public opinion and makes her the sympathetic A side when compared to Mayweathers history of abuse directed toward females. It give Rousey this moral high ground and all Floyd can really do is temper his rebuttals and hope it all goes away. She definitely has him at a disadvantage for once in his life.

    However this is all being done from a position of safety. This fight would never get sanctioned and Floyd would never participate if it did. If she really wanted to fight Floyd she could just show up at his gym and demand satisfaction for the women Floyd abused. The same women who Rousey would not have given the time of day to before their incidents with Floyd.
     
  3. wayne189

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    In a no rules fight its not the same as the in octagon a lot of the groundwork and grappling would struggle to work in the street
     
  4. wayne189

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    She stated in a no rules fight so it wouldnt be mma. If any of you have been in a real fight then you would know that going to the ground can be very bad for reasons instated earlier. Also a large amount of boxers and maybe MMA (not sure on floyd) learned to fight in the street long before they boxed.
     
  5. TJ Max

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    If this happens, it will play out just like any other Mayweather fight, (with the exception of the Pacquaio, Maidana 1, and Castillo 1 in which he clearly lost), whereby, everyone is lusting for blood and cheering, thinking Mayweather is going to get crushed, when Mayweather EMBARASSES ROUSEY EASILY and everyone IS MAD AS HELL!!!!!
     
  6. latineg

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    lmao, good post,

    yeah here is the thing, if they fought in the octagon TRUST me, I would love nothing more than Ronda beating Floyds ass, I would be cheering. Deep down I would want her to win without doubt.

    Additionally, I have always from the start been a dude that claims a MMA guy schools a boxer in the Octogon and a Boxer schools a MMA guy in the boxing ring. Big deal Ray Mercer knocked out Sylvia. That makes perfect sense to me, Ray is one of the best punchers, Tim was slow and took one right on the jaw. That is going to happen in the SMALLER percentage of fights no doubt. However, Toney vs Couture is the norm statistically speaking.

    With that said, if Rousey and Floyd went at it in the Octogon I don't see Rousey having a easy path to victory.

    First of all, Floyd is fast as hell on his feet. Way faster than some of the fastest. Strength wise I guess would be comparable between them. As well I could see Ronda throwing Floyd if they got tangled up because her grappling skills are superior. Plus I could see Ronda winning if she did throw Floyd. The problem I see is Floyd could learn take down skills FAST and with his speed he would become a problem if he used a "run and gun" style of stand up against her.

    I hate Floyd, trust me, but I always admit his boxing is top of the heap. That's the reason I hate him so much. He is fast and tricky as hell. I could really see Floyd pot shotting Rousey in is super skilled way and getting out of range before she could tangle him up. Then I could see it happening again over and over. Plus I could see those pot shots being more flush and powerful than any of the punches she has taken to date. Thus I could see her getting knocked out or down by getting "caught" coming in on Floyd and I could see Floyd being smart enough to let her get back up instead of trying to ground and pound her.

    Now this is what I see when I think about the fight. Who really knows.

    Regardless, I hate this fight for real. Its just a bad thing all around. If Ronda kills Floyd that is great for me but is it good for men and women relations? Do more ladies wack their men and if so do more men then turn around and wack their ladies?? Thus I hate the entire concept of this for REAL. Too much **** now and in past with men and women and physicality

    For fun to talk about its ok, but to me its just a bad thing for society if done for real.

    Personally I would like it if Ronda eased up on bragging about this and focused more on battered women and sending a more responsible message out to the public. But trust me, deep down that don't change I would love to see her throttle Floyd and I don't think it would be impossible if they fought. The other thing is I would HATE to see Floyd beat Ronda, its most likely going to be with punches, that would look messed up. Who would enjoy that?
     
  7. LavelleFuxwell

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    It amazes me how the MMA community chooses to use flabby James Eats Out Toney fiasco (who by the way was thoroughly washed up in boxing & was at his best at 160-170 lbs) as the prime example to fuel their MMA beats boxing belief yet conveniently leave out everything Holly Holm has done.
    Technically Holly Holm is a boxer who's competing against MMA fighters.

    Holly Holm is the only boxer who was still in physical prime and on top of the game in boxing who went to MMA. If boxers are so vulnerable one would think Holm woulda gotten Art Jimmerson'd or James Toney'd by one of the BJJ women she fought. The truth is a quick athletic boxer who uses footwork and has handspeed isnt as easy to get ahold of as MMA community want people to believe
     
  8. BCS8

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    I will be honest ... I haven't seen Holly fight but I will bet the house that she has done EXTENSIVE cross-training in order to prepare for the MMA circuit. A pure boxer or striker without cross-training gets tooled almost every time.

    If you want to push this angle, I can help you by pointing out that Cro Cop was a boxer before doing kickboxing / MMA. But, he trained grappling extensively to do so.

    Boxing is an excellent base from which to build an MMA career.

    However, it needs to be supplemented. This has been proven.
     
  9. wayne189

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    Both win their respective arts and in a real fight who knows as parts of both diciplnes work well in a fight and other parts dont. A decent mma and a decent boxer will batter most men out there no matter size and strength difference
     
  10. LavelleFuxwell

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    If you havent seen her then how can you put money on what she does in camp to prepare for her MMA fights? For all you know she does very little 'cross training' in her preparations. So far she seems intent on using her reach and her speed which has limited most clinch work and has made ground contact pretty non existent during her fights.

    However with the exception of Art Jimmerson (when mostly everyone was clueless in UFC 1) all the boxers who did MMA made claims to have worked on aspects of the ground game.

    My post has more to do with the generalizations about elite boxers that the MMA community pulls out of their asss based on completely washed up 40+ yr old boxers who did MMA for a last ditch payday.
     
  11. uncletermite

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    Being an elite boxer means little its the boxer who can use grappling equally to their striking...put Mayweather in there vs Vic darchyan who is olympic caliber wrestler who do you really think will win?

    One of the most feared men in MMA Connor Mcgregor even has stated in a clinch she would take him down because she is to strong and well balanced so not sure what you really think little Floyd will do in a cage match with her?Holly Holme..well after seeing Rondas last fight she has little to no chance against her.

    Art Jimmerson is pointless ,what about Melton bowen who at UFC 4 was the state champion HW boxer vs a average guy with decent grappling who destroyed him ? No pure boxer has won in UFC. You may find some here and there in MMA but really those days are over,no one enters a cage fight with just boxing that's dumb.When Tyson was offered to fight Royce gracie back in the mid 90's this is why he declined because he said he would lose with just boxing unless he landed a lucky punch.
     
  12. wayne189

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    And no mma star has done anything in boxing either.
    Mma will win mma and a boxer wins boxing
    But why when we say a boxer vs mma do all mma fans assume its in mma? Rousey said no rules fight right?
    Do you mma fans seriously think in a street fight going to the ground and grappling up close are wise choices?
    Losten to mma fighters who have had real fights and virtually all of them say they stayed on their feet and punched
     
  13. uncletermite

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    As a former bouncer and current training in all combat since the early 90's I can tell you ground fighting can work...do you want to go to the ground?No,but it happens...if you are fighting a known striker and know you cannot match strikes do you take it to the ground?yes.


    what does going to the ground in street fights have anything to do with fighters getting paid to win a fight in a cage?If you seriously think MMA fighters cant punch you are mistaken.

    MMA is not the WWE its real combat .MMa happens to have more k.os than boxing by the way!
     
  14. Dos Huevos

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    I want to get Hep C, Ebola and H.I.V then have an unprotected 3-way with Ronda and her mom.
     
  15. LavelleFuxwell

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    Irrelevant. They arent close to being the same competitive weight and one has aged much worse than the other.


    Um sorry Conor. No one fears you. And women don’t have the speed nor impact durability to survive the opening minute against pro level men in any combat sport. Ronda has gotten hit flush in the opening seconds by novice level WOMEN strikers. She'd get terminally hurt by any pro male boxer.

    Holm is the only boxer who left the sport while ranked on top to do MMA. Regardless of what she does in training the bottomline is she earned a living in boxing for over a decade. According to MMA fanboy mythology: boxers cant adapt to a so called real fight yet they want to ignore that Holm is undefeated in MMA fights.


    Royce did to Tyson what Conor is doing to Mayweather. UFC Publicity Stunt 101: Using boxing’s biggest name to get his own name in the news. In the mid 90s Tyson was banking 15-30 million per fight. Why the hell would Tyson throw all that away to compete in an obscure niche sport that would pay him less than what his jewelry collection was worth?