How would Ali beat Vlad?

That was one sentence. (!!) (Sorry I see Dino beat me to a post.)

It's only highly unlikely to posters who believe that 3" and about 30 lbs. is everything and that it cannot possibly be overcome.
Ever.

 

What great jabber did Wlad ever face?

He got out jabbed by Calvin Brock. He couldn't take Bocks jab away , how will he take away Ali's??

Pulev also beat him in jab's.

 

Freddie roach said Wlad hit harder....Banks said he was faster than Tyson!I believe they worked with both did you?:roll:


You say Wlad cant move and throw punches ,Pulev was over 6'4 and nearly 250 pounds with an 80 inch reach himself that you CLIAMED out jabbed Wlad which is also false ,really not many jabs were thrown in the fight those that were are mostly that of
of Wlads landing,you have to watch the FULL fight to know that,and Pulev punch output landed was 20 % lower than wlads..in short when Wlad got tired of him he ended it with a vicious left hook that sent pulev to the hospital with a concussion,he knocked down Pulev 3 time prior to that with a left hook,you sure im not the one watching boxing?Yet Ali gets outjabbed in two rounds by a slow 200 pounder under 6'0 tall named Folley he couldn't handle nortons jab either and was dropped by a 180 pound left hooker who had no speed,you even brought fat Gallento at 5'9 into the mix,did fifty cent hit a soft ball size speed bag with one hand as well?



And yes Wlad takes away alis jab the only other fighter anyone can make a case of having a better jab than Wlad is Holmes and I still pick Wlad because it was also his power punch!the rest of your statement is garbage basically ,you don't have the abiliites to pin point what Wlad actually does and how he breaks fighters down.:yep

 

Roach said Wlad had faster hands is what you said. Show me where he said that?

 

Ali beat Liston and Norton who both had a far better jab than Wlad.

What great jabber did Wlad ever fight? How come the patato peeler Brock was out jabbing Wlad?

 

Its in an interview on youtube which can be found ,or on the net.We both know I can't post links here,so give it up.:nut



Brock out jabbing wlad? Brock landed 16% of his jabs/Wlad landed 28%...



Listons slow lunging jab better than Wlads?

Norton has a good jab without the reach or power of Wlads you are delusional.:yep

 

It would be very difficult to overcome,when Ali NEEDED the jab or he could set anything up.Alis style doesn't even play a problem for Wlad,because aggressive hook punchers are what would take to defeat him with Steward,not tall straight punchers,who didn't have one punch k.o power.Wlad would simply take control of the fight and start doing his one two combo and jab hook which would k.o Ali,and he would welcome it with the back pedaling hands down style.

"Wlad klitchko has the perfect right hand ive ever seen in the history of boxing" E.Steward in 2001 before he was even his trainer.

Ali will not out box a better ,smarter guy who he never encountered like Wlad its really that simple,yes Ali has a chance to out slick him but where is the outslicking going to take place? Wlad easily a 3 to 1 favored here...I would have him 7 to 1.

 

Tall straight punchers can't beat Wlad? What was Sanders if NOT a tall straight puncher? All the punches that landed on Wlad were straight! Every single one!

And again, why in the blue blazes does one need to be a one-punch KO artist to defeat Wlad?
The man does not have a robust chin. He falters when getting hit.
Wlad needs complete dominance before he settles down and starts dropping right hands and left hooks.
I honestly doubt that he can establish his jab and range to any meaningful degree for that to happen.
But I feel like I am speaking to a wall.

 

He never said such a thing. Plus Roach was never Tyson's trainer , plus he only ever worked with a washed up shell of Mike Tyson.

Brock not only out jabbed Wlad , but he was out boxing him full stop. Im not interested in some stats you pulled off some rank blog. My eyes know better than the clown who runs that site.
Wlad didn't know what to do and spent the entirety of round 3 or 4 doing nothing but holding. Wlad only came on and got the stoppage cos Brock was reckt from all the leaning Wlad was doing to him.
And who the hell was Brock anyway. A nobody. Why would Wlad have to hold onto to an undersized weak body so badly:tired

 

Wrong once again roach trained Tyson later in his career after his prison release briefly,the 230 plus shell of muscle?Brock out jabbed Wlad with Brock landing 16% vs Wlads 28 % ? The fight was 7 rounds and all brock did was eat jabs the first 4?

brock was undeafeated and for the record you brought him up I simply as usual corrected your FALSE points. Brock was 6'2 225 pounds what does that make the 6'3 210 pound Ali if you feel size is now an excuse?:smooch


The truth is if I could post links I would own you and this site included,easy pickings with so many easy things to prove most on here including you wrong.Im not about to waste my time typing in letter for letter on the any link just cause im not allowed to post and paste links on here,its not important to me enough.:smoke

 

Roach trained Tyson for one fight,2004. I was training fighters in Phoenix and they worked at the same gym.

 

Yes he clearly stated Wlad hit harder than Tyson punch for punch,its all perception anyway..i seen a few you tube vids and comment interviews of different fighters who have sparred both say Wlad hit harder.Personally I think Wlad does hit harder watching the impact of his punches ,the difference is he doesn't deliberately go for the k.o he patienty punishes his opponets where Tyson made the k.o happen fast by being aggressive.

 

I can't stand watching Wlad fight. I have great naps on the couch during his fights. However, he has a great chance to beat every fighter that lived. He doesn't take risks & always fights to his strengths. He uses his height & never gets into macho confrontations. When you throw in his height, he's tough for anyone to beat. Mayweather is similar in his approach. Today's caution may very well beat yesterday's warriors. Unfortunately

 

Great post. I'm not mad on Wlad but appreciate what he's achieved,he'd be a real problem for anyone based on all the things you've mentioned,especially funnily enough his caution.

 

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