The best Heavyweights never to win a Heavyweight world title?

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  1. Seamus

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    You have to draw and get knocked down against a sloppy drunken Aussie and go life and death with a ballet teacher?

    Ruiz, Moorer, Maskaev... Three world champions. Three Tua KO victims.

    Oh, but surely Ed Martin and the great wobbly doll, Peter Maher, are better...
     
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    Of the fighters I watched during their career, it's Carl Williams for me. Height, handspeed, & an all time great jab.
     
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    A wind up pal? Joe Mesi and Horace Notice? :lol:
     
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    Don't think Jackson fought Martin and Maher was an amateur, novice middleweight.
    Jacksons best wins? Ed Smith, Godfrey, Cardiff, McAuliffe and O'Donnell. Draw with Goddard and the Corbett affair.
     
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    Razor Ruddock :bbb
     
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    Razor Ruddock was a good heavyweight but I think he gets over rated sometimes. Jaco beat him, the asthma excuse doesn't really fly Jaco was giving him a hell of fight before he finished him. He was pre-prime I don't hold it against him. But he came up short against Tyson twice. Got leveled by Lewis and lost a fight he couldn't close out against Morrison. He did look spectacular against Dokes though.
     
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    Razor wasn't filled out yet and wasn't exactly losing that fight,he beat many fighters better than Jaco he even beat up holmes in sparring im sure that situation doesn't override standing up to Tyson for 12 rounds with a broken jaw?Had it not been mismanaged he would be in ****eys spot with holmes and arguably the guy next to holmes as one of those champs if not the champ of the 80's before Tyson came onto the scene.
     
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    Holmes fought C**ney on the 11 th June1982.
    Ruddock turned pro that year , he was 18 years old, when that fight took place .
    Ruddock had a total of three fights before Holmes defended against C**ney and in the last one ,on the 1st of June 1982, he scaled 183lbs.
    Holmes was champion until September 1985 .
    Ruddock did not even win the Canadian title until May 1988 which was also the year he first cracked the top ten ,3 years after Holmes had lost his title.

    You inhabit a different planet from the rest of us.:patsch

    Long may that remain the case !:good
     
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    McVey, after me, you are the least popular fellow in here.. LOL... Don't let the turkeys get you down....Jog on...
     
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    Langford,Wills,Quarry,Jimmy Young,
     
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    A cyanide capsule ?
     
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    Really, is that the case? I thought I was revered by my peers?
    Jackson=Sullivan/Corbett:good
    Langford=Johnson:-(
    Wills=Willard/ :good Dempsey:-(
    Most others got their chances imo.