Why isn't Deontay Wilder famous/huge in America yet?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoxerFan89, Aug 19, 2015.


  1. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,018
    6
    Sep 14, 2013
    I'd say because he hasn't fought anybody yet but Joshua is pretty well known over here by now, Hearn does have a good hype machine though and he won a gold medal too which really helps over here.
     
  2. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,433
    1,008
    Mar 6, 2011
    Hasn't stepped up from knocking over garden gnomes.
     
  3. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

    1,064
    8
    Jan 17, 2015
    Again, that's not a valid justification. Tyson was a household name BEFORE stepping up from garbage cans.
     
  4. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,433
    1,008
    Mar 6, 2011
    Yes I know. Realistically Foreman, Tyson and Wilder's path to a title shot has been of much the same standard. Perhaps with the actual champion still deemed light years ahead of Wilder and the American public are still weary about putting their emotional faith fully behind Wilder in case he gets utterly destroyed by the hated Klitschko is playing a part.

    :think
     
  5. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,820
    26
    Jul 21, 2011
    Wilder has to beat wlad to get the recognition.


    He would be the undisupted heavyweight champion
     
  6. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,820
    26
    Jul 21, 2011

    Good point
     
  7. bignastyhooks

    bignastyhooks New Member Full Member

    36
    0
    Jul 10, 2015
    I feel like he is pretty well known. I'm from Jersey and a lot of people here heard of him...but boxing isn't as popular in the U.S. as it used to be so that could also be why, idk
     
  8. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,475
    1,293
    Apr 27, 2013
    lol

    Hmmmm... could it be that Wilders 'resume' looks
    alot like Butterbeans resume of KO victims??

    Now he's defending his 'title' against Duhaupuss!!

    Go figure...

    His last title defence was against a guy that
    got KTFO in one round by Tits Arreola!!

    hehehe...
     
    Jacques81 likes this.
  9. TheDog

    TheDog 60/40 I kick yo a$s Full Member

    604
    3
    May 22, 2015
    1. His personality isn't special
    2. Hasn't proved much

    If he would have ko'd Stieverne I know he would be more popular. The fight was kind of lack luster compared to expectations.
     
  10. Benitom3

    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

    9,446
    31
    Sep 16, 2012
    If you went life and death with Harold Sconiers? Nuff said
     
    Jacques81 likes this.
  11. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    7,005
    2,071
    Apr 8, 2013
    Good question. I haven't read the full thread at this point, but I doubt you got as much real feedback as it deserves. I've wondered this a few times too. I think there are probably a number of reasons:
    1. different environment. I think American's were waiting for a great American HW more back then, Ali was active 4 or 5 years before, Holmes was finishing up a great but unsatisfying career. Boxing was doing well across the board in America but there was a thirst for more. HW boxing not nearly as high profile in America now, less a sense it will happen again, and probably less an appetite for it.
    2. Wlad. Along the same lines as #1 in terms of environment, people acknowledge Wlad as the best and there's no real sense Wilder will dethrone Wlad. Holmes was more clearly on his way out/already gone by the time Tyson was getting to be huge. There was a vacuum that nature/boxing public abhors that Tyson seemed primed to fill that Wilder doesn't
    3. I think Wilder's resume is somewhat underrated. That said, Tyson's was more impressive. He was so young, no one was questioning who he fought, and he did it somewhat quicker than Wilder has done. Gave it more of a destructive feel and less opportunity for cynicism
    4. Size. Tyson was tiny. It was really remarkable someone his size could do what he did to much bigger men. Wilder is a giant (except his legs), so people are much less surpised at his domination. There was a novelty factor with Tyson.
    5. Social media. No blogs etc around to tear down boxers back then. Today's culture is much more cynical in general, and probably especially toward boxing and HW's, than yesterday's culture.

    So, all told, a lot of good reasons Wilder hasn't had remotely the social impact as Tyson. If somehow he defeats Wlad (overwhelmingly unlikely) I think that would change. But for now, while he's still got some social cache, he's not remotely at Tyson's level.
     
  12. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,216
    5,380
    May 5, 2005
    seems like he would be wildly popular. especially after having the courage to actually fight Dustin Nichols. whew.
     
  13. Benitom3

    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

    9,446
    31
    Sep 16, 2012
    Yes.... This fight cemented his legacy. Worm was the most avoided competetive Ester in sports and Wilder actually took down the quarter ton beast; whilst having been dropped heavily. Leshun showed his heart but honestly if Worm didn't tire, who knows?
     
    Jacques81 likes this.
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    396,409
    78,667
    Nov 30, 2006
    Because even casual American fans desperate for a great US hope at heavyweight aren't gullible enough to buy that his level of competition has been worth giving a damn about.
     
  15. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

    30,027
    5,557
    Oct 5, 2009
    Americans know Wlad is the champ and anyother belt is fraudulent