Rusty Rosenberger drugged before nino gonzalez fight

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Fair enough.. but I didn't start this thread.. I wish it would go away too...I'm only interested in Rusty because he is friend of mine.. wouldn't expect anyone else to interested.. except in the interest of fair play.. I see the Klompy chimed in with his boring list of counter points.. he said that already. Mate, I like that term Mcvey... Like, I said earlier, I only jumped on this thread when I saw Rusty was being attacked by a hack... my sarcastic mode is on.. no offense to anyone else. All comments are fair, except the guy who keeps repeating himself.. He's a real piece of work.. still not sorry for calling Rusty a brain damage loser and so on.. No matter what his opinion, it shows low character to kick an old fighter when he is down with a slam like that. Even called me a liar, and then said I was Rusty.. As far as I can tell, I am one of the few using my real full name in here.. Some members even have more than one membership name.. including you know who.. Klompy and Klompy 2, and I suspect he is artie too.. the guy who set up the question for the Klompyes ..

 

And Im going to keep chiming in until you get your facts straight and come back with some real answers and not bull****.

For instance, you say you are Rusty's "friend" then ask Rusty what exactly he did to bring these culprits to justice that resulted in "politics" keeping it from going anywhere, "lawyers games," and "protection money" being paid?? Those are very broad general allegations for a situation that he should easily be able to give details on. But the reality is that we both know Rusty never pursued legal action of any kind because he had no case. Just like we know Rusty was nowhere near a title shot. Rusty didnt shock the world (because as youve already seen several of us who were boxing fanatics at the time had no idea who Rusty was) when he won the New Jersey state MW title. He wasnt one of the greatest pound for pound boxers to ever come out of Youngstown. He isnt one of the most experienced boxing trainers out there. He wasnt one of the top middleweights in the world.

Here, Ill do this. I'll call up some of the people I know from New Jersey who were active at this time, Ill call Kathy, and I'll track down Nino. Ill get the other side of the story. Who knows, maybe they will back Rusty up but I doubt it.

 

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That's fair enough.. and it would go along way to find the film of the fight too.. That would be great if Nino would be so gracious and give an honest assessment .. you know fighters are not going to say.. oh, I beat him up because he was out of it on drugs Duva gave him.. Ask him to come in here.... Tell him there is a raging debate over that fight. Oh, as far as the comments about why Rusty didn't pursue legal action against Duva.. Those were my own conjectures, not Rusty's. ...kind of a shotgun spray answer ... one of them may have hit the target...who knows? . can I conjecture once in awhile too..? That kind of stuff went on then..

 

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The largest and most powerful champion of the 19th century at 168 pounds, Boston Tom McMustache was a true ATG and would easily defeat the likes of Wladimir Klitschko. Born sometime between 1678 and 1867 to professional whale-harpooner Hezekiah McMustache and his wife Gertrude, and often seen as an early prototype of Sugar Nikolai Valuev, Boston Tom was the only one of 27 siblings to survive past the age of three.

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Young Tom discovered his penchant for fisticuffs early on when, as a young lad, he was given a shiny ha'penny with which to purchase for his father a bottle of Doctor McTavish's 100% Cocaine Health Tonic, a popular and legal beverage of the era. A neighborhood bully accosted the young McMustache, who ironically did not yet have a mustache, and demanded the ha'penny. It was at this moment that the lad first grit his teeth, thrust his chin high and forward as was the fistic technique of the era, slapped his thigh, wiggled his bottom, and uncorked a mighty blow that sent his assailant flying.

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In the years to come Boston Tom would rack up many a victory on the streets of his native Baltimore, before finally turning professional with a 700 round no-contest win over Stinky Holstein. Many more no-contest victories followed as Boston Tom perfected his "punch" punch, a punch meant to imitate a blacksmith's punch, and soon Tom was contending for the heavyweight championship of the world held by Irish Tex Goldstein. A win over High *******s Hernandez secured McMustache as the contender to beat, and the title fight was held at some point between October 12, 1879 and May 4th 1891 at a location that was probably in Arizona .McMustache naturally triumphed by 852nd round knockout, and a legend was born.

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Feel free to start the thread. It'll be good.

 

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Putting a thread up about this mystical boxer is a pugilist snipe hunt...no thanks.. :-( After you... Nice try though.... You guys....:hi:

 

I'm flip flopping again... I just watched the first Holyfield/Tyson fight.. I believe now more than ever.. had Marciano fought that Tyson.. Marciano would have knocked Tyson out.. I know it's not fair, Tyson at his decline, against Rocky in his prime, but that should make up for the weight difference.. Don't you think.. Sure, prime against prime, Tyson wins.. I know what you are going to say...go ahead..say it.. if Tyson was an old man against a prime Marciano the Rock Wins.. That's not what I'm saying.. just the Tyson that Hoilyfield fought.. which was still better than most fighters the Rock fought... Heck, Joe Walcott or Ezzard Charles would have beat Tyson that night.. He was terrible! Come on..give it to the Rock on this one fight... :happy

 

Something has been bothering me ... ARTI, ARTI, who are you? Why haven't you posted other places on this forum? You just happen to pop up for that one questions, why? You got your answer that Kloppy so graciously replied to.. the one who setup the question for Kloppy.. And you don't reply? ... You come in here, start ****, then disappear.. It seems strange to me the person who posed the original questions hasn't chimed in here.. I'd like to ask Artie why he was so interested in Rusty's story, since he is so unknown an all. Why did he ask the question here..? Has Artie posted before? Who is he? Does anyone in this forum know him? Isn't it against the rules here to have more than one I.D. for the same person..?? And moderators, don't you think it's about time this thread disappear? Why has it been here for 4 years without a comment until I did..??? Now, I'm done.. Artie Who, has his answer.. so make this thread go away...:hi: And you Kloppy, don't even talk to me..

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****ing brain damaged loser.

 

SICK ****HEAD... GO **** YOURSELF! And the horse you came in on!

 

Dar dar dar. I coulda been a contebdah if i habnt gawt my ath whipped by a smalla leth exthpewienced wewterweight. I wad a champeen of new jawsee. Lookie lookie at me. Im amazing.

Go back to walking on your heals and talking like a mush mouth. Go complain about how you turned out to be a worthless mush-head to someone who actually believes you ridiculous conspiracy stories.

 

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Mr. Klompton:

You are factually correct about everything on this subject, 100 percent.

But I find it, at the very least, utterly tasteless and classless to call someone with brain damage from boxing a "mush mouth" and "mush-head" (in any case, but I'm presuming that you believe the poster to be Rusty himself, which could well be true).

And if you, indeed, believe this to be the case I don't understand your reason for engaging him in a name-calling contest and attacking him in this manner. You, above all people, should understand the nature and consequences of too many punches to the head and the effect it can have on a boxer as it manifests itself over time -- and that certainly includes delusional and paranoid thinking.

You know what happens when you get into a p-i-s-sing contest? Everybody gets wet and it doesn't smell very good.

Refute his assertions, by all means, and defend those whom he accuses with irrefutable facts to help clear their names, but it would do no harm to preserve for yourself a sense of decency and dignity as you do it.

I was taught that you treat people with respect not because of who they are (or because you believe it is deserved), but because of who you are. I don't always live up to that standard, but it is a worthy one to which I try to aspire.

Attack me for posting this, if you wish, or tell me it's none of my business and I'm full of **** if you want, but at least think about my message if you will.

 

I applaud your well spoken words, and courage to say them.. good words to live by... I do try...

James Townes is my real name, a personal friend of Rusty's...

I still think Kloppy is Artie...or artie would present himself here...or someone else would know who artie is.. Is he a legitimate member here...? Nobody seems to look into my exertion that the original question that started this whole thread was a setup question by Kloppy.. Or his friend artie, who is now a mystery member.

I agree, the facts presented by others here on Rusty makes justifiable arguments against Rusty's claim of title contention ...

I too, have presented some facts, not the least of which is, Kloppy wasn't there! He may have legitimate facts about Rusty's potential, and that Rusty's claims to unclaimed destiny was way overstated... But Kloppy wasn't there when the pig ate the cabbage... When Duva undermined him.. sold him out! So, if Kloppy wasn't there, how does he know different? I wasn't there either...so why do I believe Rusty? I told you, he's my friend...What's Kloppy's motivation? Has anyone asked that? To defend Lou Duva's good name..? If it wasn't true, Duva should have sued, hired a lawyer, not have a second rate book reviewer stab Rusty in the back...More dirty boxing... About his arguments on Rusty's potential, etc.. I too find it hard to believe...the unclaimed destiny angle of his story. The middleweight division at the time... one of the most formidable in history... And Rusty, was just a developing fighter at the time.. and had fought nobody near the class of the top 10 of the 69-72 era.. The claims in his book are from Rusty...NOT ME.. But I will defend my friend, delusional or not... This ****ing contest found a new low, and more disgusting then I ever imagine it would go.. Heated discussions and debates over boxing opinions are a given, we all except that.. But Kloppy has take the low road on this one. Which you pointed out.. What would settle this... is for this thread to be removed.. and let Rusty have his dream, destiny, disillusionment, or whatever it is he is seeking from his book.. He believes his story and that is good enough for me..

Please everyone, help me request this thread be put to sleep...It serves no purpose anymore.. Even artie ignores it now.... :hi:

 

Sorry pal but I call em like I see em. When this idiot continually comes back and baits me for no other reason than to argue then hes a brain dead brain damaged dip**** and thats all I care to say about this moron. If its tasteless then so be it. He dragged this into the gutter and I followed him. If he wants to suffer a verbal bashing akin to the physical one Nino Gonzalez gave him then so be it. If he wants his ego beaten to a pulp just like his brain was then so be it. Im sorry, I dont worship boxing or boxers enough to give an ******* a pass simply because he suffered for being **** at the profession he once chose. An ******* is an ******* regardless of the reason why.