Wladimir Klitschko vs. Evander Holyfield

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  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    [url]http://www.celebheights.com/s/Evander-Holyfield-4506.html[/url]
     
  2. uncletermite

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    I just gave you one...lewis !You are not really watching the fights you making assumptions with age,no one who watches the Tyson fights ot lewis ones would possibly agree that his defense was worse or his footwork. Holyfield never had that power jab he had in the lewis second fight anyone can see that.
     
  3. brb

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    More proven? The guy is the most inconsistent HW possibly of All-Time. He lost way too often. Additionally, a 1991 Holy just started making HW. Can you think of any CW now that would give Wlad problems. They don't even come up on the radar. David Haye was the only one because he had the speed and power.

    If Wlad can deal with Haye's in and out movement and his power, then he can deal with EHs.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahashahahahaha!!!
     
  5. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There he is! Figured you'd be making your way into here.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Holyfield turned HW in 1988 dummy.

    Holy vs Haye would have been a one sided mismatch.

    Haye couldn't replicate the skills of a 40 year old Holyfield , much less the complete , multi-dimensional Holy of the early 90's.

    Haye's entire construct as a boxer would barely fit in Evanders left ball sack.

    What you said basically equates to Holyfield being no better than David Haye and where Haye failed Holy would also be sure to fail.

    You're a disgrace to boxing forums. Much like all fanatical Wladturds.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I don't get the comparison: Holyfield was not an in-and-out ambush fighter like Haye. Also had way more aggression, determination, and toughness than Haye, fwiw. Holyfield was certainly a more talented in-fighter than Wlad; the real question is whether Wlad would be able to hold and push his way out of danger whenever Holyfield inevitably got inside on him. If so, Wlad probably wins. If not, I'd probably have to go with Holyfield.
     
  8. brb

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    He didn't start fighting for the belts until late 1990.

    I'm not saying Haye is as good as Holy. I'm just pointing out that his speed and power are probably better.

    We just saw Povetkin (who is naturally bigger than EH and a better amateur background) get slaughtered by Wlad.

    I think a better fight would be AP vs. EH.

    The only advantage I see Evander have over Wlad is possibly chin.

    More Power ---> Wlad
    Better Defense ---> Wlad
    Better Technique ---> Wlad
    Taller ---> Wlad
    Faster ---> Same
    Conditioning ---> Same
    Heart ---> Same (Wlad always gets up)
    Natural Health ---> Wlad (Holy has a heart condition)
    Strength ---> Wlad
    Better Jab ---> Wlad
    Better Right Hand ---> Wlad
    Better Left Hook ---> Wlad
     
  9. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I give Holyfield the edge in chin, a slight edge in heart, but the rest is all Vlad to me. I think Klitschko would likely win. Even if we point out that many of Evander's losses came over the age of 35 --usually a useful arguing point for him-- in this case it doesn't hold up, because Vlad is almost 40 and more dominant than ever. Overall he has just been the more consistent of the two and I would pick him to win by UD.
     
  10. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal:deal
     
  11. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    At age 30 Holyfield was 28-0 (22) overall, 10-0 (7) in World title fights, and 5-0 (2) vs. Hall of Famers. He won a World title in just his 12th pro fight when he beat Hall of Famer Dwight Qawi by 15 round decision. Holyfield stopped Qawi in their rematch, the only other man to stop Qawi was George Foreman.

    At CW Holyfield went 18-0 (14) overall and 6-0 (5) in World title fights. Holyfield won his first 10 fights at HW, 8 by KO. In those 10 fights at HW he went 4-0 (2) in World title fights. Also in those 10 fights at HW he beat former HW title challenger James Tillis (KO5), former world champ and top 10 ranked Pinklon Thomas (KO7), former world champ and top 4 ranked Michael Dokes (KO10), top 10 ranked Adilson Rodrigues (KO2), top 10 ranked Alex Stewart (KO8, he weighed 212 for this fight), World champ Buster Douglas (KO3), Former World champ George Foreman (W12), HW title challenger Bert Cooper KO7, and former World champ Larry Holmes.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    Conditioning same???:patsch

    A low work rater who gassed out multiple time is equal in conditioning to Holyfield?:nut

    Did you ever even watch these guys box?
     
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  13. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ive read some **** on here, but that takes the biscuit.
     
  14. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield takes this and easy.

    Holyfield bought the heat, more than any opponent of Wlad. It explains why Wlad ducked Chisora a number of times.

    If the Real Deal heat could melt iron, hell melt steel too.
     
  15. Rock0052

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    A fighter with no history of ducking ducked Chisora to fight a far superior fighter that was also a worse stylistic matchup for him.

    Makes total sense.