Roy Jones would've killed Ray Leonard at Super Middlweight...Fact!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can't have an objective debate with him about Roy. I've been trying for over 3 years.

    But he knows in his heart that Lennox was afraid of Roy, and that Roy would have taken him out in about 5 rounds.

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  2. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd only had difficulty making weight at 130 lbs. After about 6 years of campaigning in the division, he jumped to LW for weight purposes. After that though, it really has nothing to do with his body filling out. He was already in his mid 20's at that juncture.

    At LW, it became quite apparent he wasn't going to land a major fight that he was craving, specifically against Freitas or Casamayor, so he chased after the PPV fights at 140 lbs (specifically Arturo Gatti.) He didn't jump to 140 because he couldn't make 135 anymore, he just left it because at the time the top guys at LW seemingly wanted nothing to do with him and Floyd was a money hungry superstar with a small fanbase that felt underappreciated (which I believe he was.)

    Even at 140, the only reason he left that division was to chase the PPV fights at 147 (specifically Judah prior to his loss to Baldomir and DLH.) If those guys weren't around, he could've easily stayed at 140 lbs for several years. In fact, I maintain he's still a JWW that has just been campaigning for the last decade 1 and 2 weight classes where he should be actually fighting.

    Going up so many classes has obviously helped his bank account and his overall legacy though, but I wonder what his resume would've looked like had he stayed at LW and JWW for a couple more years. What makes him a highly rated ATG IMO is him being so successful so late in his career while he campaigns in his 4th and 5th weightclass.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    I like him a lot as a poster though.

    He hates Roy, but in an amusing sort of a way, and you can debate with him at times.

    He's on another level to the clown that is Young Terror. Could you imagine Rico PRETENDING to be a fan of Roy's?

    Isn't Joe.zero due to make an appearance?

    And where the hell is my favourite poster Bailey?

    :lol:
     
  4. Mind Reader

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    People forget that Roy was feared like GGG and Kovalev... Fighters thought long and hard about fighting him.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep.

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  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AS for the OP, I think many people already touched up on it that it wouldn't be too fair of a fight, although Jones did come up from JMW himself. AT the time Leonard fought at 168, he was probably around 60% of what he used to be. He only fought 6 or 7 times above WW so it's hard to compare him H2H against larger guys in higher weight classes.

    If it did happen, I'd favor Jones by decision.
     
  7. Mind Reader

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    I miss Joe Zero... He is a non fake version of Young Terror and way more funny...

    I like Rico too. He knows his stuff and is often right but just hates Jones with a passion.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Correct.

    I now completely understand the TS's point.

    But like you say, he's chosen the wrong comparison to illustrate it.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    The forum wouldn't be as good without them.
     
  10. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Bailey is sitting at a table with the Team Elite Gnenerals, I hear they are voting who they will overnight a Team Elite pie to. haha
     
  11. Loudon

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    Ha!

    I'd be devastated if Bailey ever left here.

    And where's Serge? He's another one of my favourite posters. I hope he's doing okay. I haven't spoken to him in ages.
     
  12. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I am not sure... I miss both of ther posts though..
     
  13. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. :good
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  15. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At least you understand ,my point:good. Thats really all this thread was about. I wasn't seriously trying to bash Leonard, I was just using the logic of Floyd haters.