How would Ali beat Vlad?

Jesus are you guys for real? What on earth do you mean that Ali had nothing to trouble Wlad? The opposite is true. Ali feasted on bigger stronger opponents and used their size and power against them taking them into deep waters later on in the fight when their stamina was tested. You only have to witness the way in which Klitschko gassed against Brewster to see the sort of scenario that would unfold.
To say that Klitschko would likely ko Ali in the first 6 rounds is frankly preposterous. If Foreman and Shavers couldnt do it the Klitschko would have no hope. Ali is not considered one of the greatest ever for no reason and if you are going to make outlandish statements then I have to question your credibility and understanding of the sport of boxing.

 

It's my practice to be civil on here irregardless of your comment. Or other troll activity I see here... in keeping with that policy, as much as I can. I only have one question to ask you.. what color is the sun on your planet if you think Wlad should even be mentioned in the same breathe as Ali, much less beat him.. atsch

 

"Civil", except when you're showing enormous disrespect to other champs and delegitimizing other posters views without even the faintest whiff of rationality.

Sorry, I'm from a planet where things are actually viewed rationally, where we don't make icons that can never be approached. "Troll"? Please, if that's what being truthful means to you then keep on at it. I'll let you linger on with your delusions, I know there's no sense in trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. Ali is your most favoritist hero of all time, and no one can ever beat him. Even those who say he's the greatest of all time, but that its silly to hold him to modern standards for H2H, even those people must just be crazy to have such off base views of your favoritist hero of all time.:rofl

 

That seems like an illogical thing to predict.

Who's the best opponent Wlad stopped within 6 rounds? Austin? A shot Ray Mercer?

And Ali was never stopped until the 1980s, when he was severely shot, and even then he went more than 6 rounds against an ATG opponent. Not even knocked down for over a decade during his prime and post-prime years.

 

Andrewa1 is one of those Heavyweightblog.com morons.

Where Liston = Butterbean
Ali= A cruiserweight
Biggs is the 80s Audley Harrison and Morrison is greater than Frazier.

Ive read those articles, never have i read so much nonsense.

 

Judging by others who commented here on your boxing genius, you are the one having trouble having an intelligent conversation.. not only here, but on other venues of open forums.. I won't even attempt to try.. I don't need an ignore button.. I'll read your posts for amusement...but will feel no need to respond to the total nonsense ...

 

I've got no problem with people thinking Wlad beats Ali, but I sometimes wonder what Wlad fans see when they watch him.
Ali's got nothing to trouble Wlad with?!? Please what are you watching have you ever seen Ali?
Wlad's simply never remotely faced anyone like Ali, oh sorry the lighting fast of hand and foot David Haye!
I've said on here previous this fight would be a stylistic nightmare for the mechanical Wlad no matter how big he is.

 

I think that they'd be a hard fight for each other. Ali would never have faced a combination of power, size and technical ability like Wlad. Wlad would never have faced footwork, speed and heart like Ali brings.

I don't know if Wlad can KO Ali unless Ali allows him to KO him. That is to say, if he Wlad wins the long range war, as he usually does, it is up to Ali to keep coming into him or to start running. On the other hand, if Muhammad has the speed and stamina to make it past Wlad's jab consistently, to unload, and to avoid getting countered, he might just be able to pick Wlad apart, maybe even stop him late.

It's just that nobody has really been able to do that to Klitschko before, except maybe Sanders, and that's what makes this matchup interesting. I'd say Wlad 60-40, but it would be a good fight, unless they try outclinch each other, which would suck.

 

Wow an actual poster with common sense above! ^^^^:thumbsup


The only thing keeping the dolts on here afloat is my inability to post links ,hope they have their life preservers ready in 6 months when they go under water when I unload on them.

 

In 6 months time you will be on everyone's ignore list.:yep

 

Ali feasted on smaller men that he could outbox from a distance with a jab and quick combos. He would need to get uncomfortably close to Wlad to start hitting him considering he never worked the body and Wlad was too tall and outreaches him a solid 3 inches so fighting him outside is not a possibility.

Wlad's weaknesses are his chin and his stamina. Ali doesn't have the power or consistency of hitting in this particular scenario to KO Wlad and Wlad is too smart to be led in a rope-a-dope type of fight which would disrupt his pacing.

Wlad UD imo.

 

Tommy Brooks who briefly worked with Wlad said his hand speed is on par with Larry Holmes. That is blazing hand speed

Wlad is faster than Ali from age 30-38. Ali in the 1960's was faster, but he lacked the strength, clinching skills and counter punching of the post exile Ali.

How many of Ali's opponents had faster hands? Very few. Patterson did and he was actually out boxing Ali for a while. Just imagine if Patterson was 40 pounds heavier, six inches taller, much stronger, and much taller? Ali's in some trouble then...

 

Smaller men like:
Ron Lyle
Ken Norton
George Foreman
Mac Foster
Buster Mathis
Joe Bugner
Al Lewis
Duke Sabedong
Ernie Terrell
Charley Powell

 

Still doesn't change that 2/3 of Ali's opponents would be Cruiserweights today, including some of the ones who beat him and troubled him.

 

EDIT: sorry wrong thread.