TBE? Was it ever possible?

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  1. Chutz

    Chutz Active Member Full Member

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    I think most people can agree Mayweather is not TBE. But, was it ever possible for Mayweather to become TBE given the level of opponents he could face in his career? Or was the opportunity there for him, and he never took it?
     
  2. BetterThenYou

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    never was there. there will never be another man born who beats srr p4p or h2h ever again
     
  3. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah he could have and could still but it starting to be late to grow a pair of *****.
     
  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, maybe to casual fans.

    I realize that many posters on here only started watching boxing in the last 3 years, so Floyd is all they know. Most of us actual watched Floyd in his true prime, and realized, that though brilliant, there were a number of guys in history better.

    If you wanna just talk the lighter weights, Whitaker and Duran in their respective primes were both a level above Floyd.
     
  5. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Nothing is impossible but it would be highly infeasible in this day and age for anyone to pass the career of Ray Robinson.
     
  6. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the top 10 P4P ATG list is pretty much set in stone at this point.
     
  7. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is the TBE of his era and thats all he ever needs to be
     
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    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Mayweather had the natural God given boxing talent to raked up there alongside Ali, Robinson etc but he did not make full use of it.
    For whatever reasons you believe he ducked away from any fighter he feared he might not beat. Prime Pacquaio, Margarito, Williams ,Tszyu etc You cannot rate anything due to May 2 that was a complete & utter con job
    A seriously injured fighter taking on SCARED fighter. Don't forget it was his own Father/trainer that called him scared
    At his best he would never be TBE but he could have been very close, As it is he isn't even the fighter of the era. That honor was rightfully bestowed on Manny Pacquaio In a way I feel sorry for Floyd because his legacy will not be anywhere near what it could have been
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    It's all subjective so, no.
     
  11. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    although you are a Floyd nutthugger, I have to agree with this, the TBE of the history boxing is a personal opinion, nothing more, Floyd proved he's TBE of his era and that's all he had to prove
     
  12. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's hard to not be disappointed with his career.

    He's a guy who by all means, should be widely considered one of the very best to ever lace em up. I've said it before, but I think in terms of ability, he's top 10 all time.

    I think if he fought and beat Bradley, prime Pacquiao, Margarito, prime Cotto, and Hatton at 140, he'd be considered top 20 all time.
     
  13. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As much as people criticize who he fought and when, I have a hard time naming a current fighter with a better resume.

    He's the best of this era, and maybe that's good enough.
     
  14. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The short answer is no.


    Yeah, unfortunately for Floyd, even if he didn't have the misses that he does, there just aren't enough ATG's or HOF'ers in this era to get him to be TBE. TBE isn't the best solely off of skill, it's also his contemporaries skillsets and how they were able to handle them.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Sort of impossible, realistically, given the reality of strength and weakness of certain eras.