What do you rate as the most controversial draw in boxing history?

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  1. Super Hans

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    My eyes have seen the glory of the Welsh Dragon my lord!

    He made Bernard Hopkins his son and I know that strikes a chord.

    He went on to expose PED cheat Jones as a fraud!

    The Welsh Dragon goes marching on!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Joe Calzaghe goes marching on!
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    Super Hans, Aug 22, 2015
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    My eyes have seen the glory of the Welsh Dragon my lord!

    He made Bernard Hopkins his son and I know that strikes a chord.

    He went on to expose PED cheat Jones as a fraud!

    The Welsh Dragon goes marching on!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Joe Calzaghe goes marching on!
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    Super Hans, Aug 22, 2015
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    My eyes have seen the glory of the Welsh Dragon my lord!

    He made Bernard Hopkins his son and I know that strikes a chord.

    He went on to expose PED cheat Jones as a fraud!

    The Welsh Dragon goes marching on!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Joe Calzaghe goes marching on!
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    Super Hans, Aug 22, 2015
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  4. Clinton

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    Hope you're not inferring that I said Tarver was shot after filming Rocky because I never wrote it or inferred it. I wrote that he had to drop a ton of weight after filming that movie. And both of them lost to Chad Dawson lol.
     
    Clinton, Aug 23, 2015
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    You inferred it adversely effected his performance against Hopkins, to try in a round about way to slate Calzaghe's win...therefore:

    My eyes have seen the glory of the Welsh Dragon my lord!

    He made Bernard Hopkins his son and I know that strikes a chord.

    He went on to expose PED cheat Jones as a fraud!

    The Welsh Dragon goes marching on!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Joe Calzaghe goes marching on!
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    Super Hans, Aug 23, 2015
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  6. Clinton

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    I never inferred that Tarver was shot. You are lying. I wrote that he had to lose a lot of weight after the Rocky movie, which he did. And, quite frankly, it's easy to slate Calzaghes win over Hopkins because Hopkins was overrated as it is.
     
    Clinton, Aug 23, 2015
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    So why bring it up if you thought it didn't adversely effect his performance?

    And no it wasn't overrated because nobody who claims it's a robbery, really believes it is, and Hopkins went on to have some of his best wins following it, despite everyone saying Calzaghe only won because Hopkins was old.

    My eyes have seen the glory of the Welsh Dragon my lord!

    He made Bernard Hopkins his son and I know that strikes a chord.

    He went on to expose PED cheat Jones as a fraud!

    The Welsh Dragon goes marching on!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!

    Joe Calzaghe goes marching on!
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    Super Hans, Aug 23, 2015
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  8. Clinton

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    YOU, YOURSELF brought Tarver up when you claimed Tarver was one of Hopkins best wins(along with natural junior middle Winky who fought Hopkins at lightheavy:lol::nut). And losing the weight obviously affected Tarver's performance,although I don't believe Tarver was anything special in the 1st place. Then you wrote that I wrote Tarver was shot after filming Rocky, which is a lie. Please stop lying. And yes, Calzaghe over Hopkins IS overrated because Hopkins is overrated. Simple question for you. What great or close to great fighter did Hopkins ever beat that was naturally as big as he was and remotely close to his prime? Hopkins' resume and legacy lie in his longevity, certainly not in the (lack of) high quality of his victims.
     
    Clinton, Aug 23, 2015
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    Nice post
     
    Clinton, Aug 23, 2015
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    Tarver was Hopkins best ever win. And then after that probably Pavlik. Sandwiched between was Calzaghe schooling him.

    My eyes have seen the glory of the Welsh Dragon my lord!​

    He made Bernard Hopkins his son and I know that strikes a chord.​

    He went on to expose PED cheat Jones as a fraud!​

    The Welsh Dragon goes marching on!​

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    Joe Calzaghe goes marching on!


    46-0 Deal with it :thumbsup
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    Super Hans, Aug 23, 2015
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    Joe Calzaghe was a great fighter and most deserved of his 46 0 record. After watching the fight I had him beating Hopkins by 2 or 3 points so I've nothing to deal with. However if you claim Pavlik and Tarver are Hopkins best wins then you're quite foolish. Deal with THAT lol.
     
    Clinton, Aug 24, 2015
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  12. Super Hans

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    Who are then?

    My eyes have seen the glory of the Welsh Dragon my lord!​

    ​
    He made Bernard Hopkins his son and I know that strikes a chord.​

    ​
    He went on to expose PED cheat Jones as a fraud!​

    ​
    The Welsh Dragon goes marching on!​

    ​
    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    ​
    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    ​
    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    Joe Calzaghe goes marching on!
    ​
     
    Super Hans, Aug 24, 2015
    Super Hans, Aug 24, 2015
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    Obviously Trinidad even though he's a natural welter (notice a trend here on Bernard s part lol?). When they fought Trinidad was on everyone's p4p list, was the favorite against Hopkins, and they were campaigning at the same weight at that point in time. Initially you said Winky and Tarver even though Winky was a natural Jr middle fighting at lightheavy 4 the 1st time. After I'd reminded you of that fact you changed your tune and then wrote and wrote Tarver and Pavlik, a natural middleweight who fought Hopkins at lightheavy, where he had never fought before (see the pattern with Hopkins lol?). So which victory was better for Hopkins at lightheavy - natural light middle fighting for the 1st time at lightheavy Winky, or natural middle fighting for the 1st time at lightheavy Pavlik? You need to make up your mind. And btw you still didn't answer my other question. Let's try one more time. What great or even close to great fighter did Bernard Hopkins beat that wasn't naturally smaller than him and was close to prime. Still waiting. Or better yet I don't care because there aren't any and you simply don't have an answer.
     
    Clinton, Aug 25, 2015
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  14. Super Hans

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    Well if that is your question, what great or close to great fighter has anyone alive beat who wasn't shot at a fair weight


    My eyes have seen the glory of the Welsh Dragon my lord!​

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    He made Bernard Hopkins his son and I know that strikes a chord.​

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    He went on to expose PED cheat Jones as a fraud!​

    ​
    The Welsh Dragon goes marching on!​

    ​
    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    ​
    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    ​
    Glory, glory Joe Calzaghe!​

    Joe Calzaghe goes marching on!
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    Super Hans, Aug 25, 2015
    Super Hans, Aug 25, 2015
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  15. Clinton

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    In the exact moment that I read your question, Leonard Hearns and Spinks Qawi immediately came to mind. I'm beyond certain that I could come up with many if i had more time. Haven't written that, I've answered 2 of your questions and you're still skirting mine lol. No surprise there
     
    Clinton, Aug 25, 2015
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