James Toney to return on 24 October

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  1. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha Ha. He'll be working there part-time, plus all you can eat.
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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  3. FrankinDallas

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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Tarver would destroy Toney at this stage. Destroy.
     
  5. lowblow3

    lowblow3 Former Champ Full Member

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    Let's be clear: Toney does not belong in the same ring than Tarver at this stage of his career. Losing to journeymen for whatever reason does not qualify him for anything. In a wide open hw picture he could have had a shot against Tarver providing a few wins against 2nd tier opposition. This is just a disaster and should convince James to call it quits.
     
  6. Avon Barksdale

    Avon Barksdale Active Member Full Member

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    Toney's on the fast road to becoming a vegetable. Sad to see
     
  7. TinFoilHat

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    Should have retired long ago. He looks terrible and I fear for his health.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Lets be honest. He sounded and acted punch drunk even in his prime.

    Sure, he loses some brain cells every fight. But I'd imagine not too many since there aren't many left to get knocked around.
     
  9. FAT_TONEY

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    Toney losing to that Ellis guy is a total disgrace, how on earth could that happen?

    Toney just needs to get in shape now and put things right. His reflexes aren't there anymore, but I believe that when he's in shape he'd have enough left to beat 2nd tier guys like Ellis or Gavern... It's time for James to correct these blemishes on his record.

    Yeah, I know, he might as well retire, and that would be the better option, but we all know that he's a born fighter who just won't do that... he's too proud, stubborn, and maybe stupid too. He'll never quit and probably end up severely brain-damaged, and that's a sad thing for him as a person and bad for the sport, but it is what it is. It's his own health. He continues to step into the ring, and he might as well do it seriously and have a couple decent wins.

    Toney should rematch Ellis and Gavern to get back into the mix. In todays weak HW division that should be enough to get ranked among the top 30-40. Why not make a HW tournament then, with veterans like Tarver and Briggs, Toney, Tony Thompson, Razor Ruddock... the winner could face Deontay Wilder to find out who the real american HW champ is.
     
  10. Phil_Ivey_76

    Phil_Ivey_76 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed!
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The last notable win of Tarver was Clinton Woods in 2008 :roll:

    I highly doubt Tarver would even beat Toney at this stage.
     
  12. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    Johnaton Banks would win 10-11 rounds vs Toney, Cunningham wins by shutout. Tarver destroyed Banks, and imo he beat Cunningham as well. Toney lost to Ellis, a guy that Tarver would probably knock out in 3 rounds.
     
  13. TSoprano

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    Cunningham is featherfisted and couldn't land anything clean. Tarver saw all his punches coming and made Cunningham wobble twice in the fight. Tarver was in control all night. A win for Tarver was correct, but I can agree with a draw as well. But no way Steve won that fight.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnathan Banks was a part time boxer, the time Tarver fought him.
    Cunningham is a 40 year old cruiserweight . Both are past prime cruiserweights.

    Contrary to Tarver, Toney fought real heavyweights of quality. (Ruiz, Rahman, Holyfield, Peter 2X, Oquendo, Guinn, Browne).

    Tell me one heavyweight of note Tarver has beaten? In fact, Tarver's last notable win was against Woods 7 years ago. :deal
     
  15. TSoprano

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    Tarver beats Browne. And yes, Matt Legg, Jason Gavern en Charles Ellis are real heavyweights of quality :lol: He lost against two of them.

    Sheppard, Banks, Cunningham >>>>>>>>>> Legg, Gavern, Ellis