The writing is on the wall, no Cotto Canelo winner for Bumlovkin...

Froch and Chavez were worth the trip up. They were big fights. Ward isn't. He's been retired for the past couple years and is fighting on an UNDERCARD his next fight while GGG is on PPV. Ward ins't ranked. He isn't anything. He is forgotten. There's nothing to entice GGG to fight him at 168. Why is this so hard to understand!?

I feel like this concept is as easy as 2+2 but people just let it go in one ear and out the other.

 

Sounds like a bunch of excuses and apologies...

 

This is FACT. This is nothing but fact and truth. You're just in straight denial.

 

It would be impossible to deny that point.

 

You two seriously make my brain hurt.

 

It is a matter of weighing RISK VS. REWARD.

It is what all fighters and their team of advisers do for every fight.

It is nonetheless a reality.

Honestly I don't really care. If they fight, cool. If they don't fight, then that's also cool and we can hope for some other great fights involving them.

 

It is what it is... I'm not exclusive to either side of the argument. That one point he made that I quoted was true. But I'm also not oblivious to the realities of weighing risk/reward. Everybody does it.

 

At the end of the day, moving up in weight classes is not an obligation that a fighter has, never has been, so whether they are selective about their opposition based on financial gain is not something that can be held against them in my eyes.

Now when you have someone avoiding fighters in his own weight class that are their biggest challenges based on risk-reward, that's when I have a problem becuase I think a fighter is obliged to face the biggest challenges in his own weight class.

 

Agree but Golvkin would beat them all

 

Golovkin telling Mayweather to move up a division to fight but being unwilling to move up a division to fight Ward would be the same as Ward telling Golovkin to move up a division to fight but being unwilling to move up a division to fight Kovalev... So it's all sort of "whatever" to me and the discussions are only relevant because of how unwilling people are to acknowledge the basics of this whole situation.

 

Only on Planet GolovIdiot...

 

Simple arithmetic and tic-tac-toe make your brain hurt...

 

Yeah we have discussed this before. I completely agree with your sentiment on weight classes and the dislike of the feeling that fans have now of fighters being somehow needing to just rise up the divisions like a ladder.

You have to only judge what happens.

Not what you personally want to happen, what should happen, what most people wanted to happen... you have to judge what happens. Anything that doesn't happen, well, it doesn't happen. So it's pointless unless discussing in the context of "what could have been?"

I understand we are in the context of "what might happen?" right now but the endless bickering of the two sides... I'm over it.

 

Personally, I don't have a problem with this and I don't expect either GGG or Ward to move up just because they called out a smaller man before either. But that's just me.

 

I know but I'm saying for those who constantly bring that up, one way or the other. Seldom are those vocal about it consistent.