Can anyone take 88-89 Mike Tyson?

Because Joe Frazier and Mike Tyson are alike.

 

In many ways yes. Physically similar, powerful, lots of head movement. Tyson was heavier and had more punches, better hand speed too. But Frazier had a better motor.

Not the same, but similar.

 

Vitali gave Williams an almighty pasting, the fact that Danny managed to stay upright until the 8th is testament to his chin, and Vitali's kindness. Remind me how many times Williams had visited the canvas ?

Bruno never gave anybody fits, he was big, strong, and had heavy hands, ability wise he was pretty awful.

 

He was beating Smith, Witherspoon and Lewis before being stopped. I mean doesnt Vitali get the same pass for his losses? That he was winning, before he lost?

The only guy who ran through him was Tyson.

And most importantly, Brunos performance, vs a younger Lewis was much better than Vitalis, vs an old Lewis. But because of the aftermath Vitalis fight with Lewis gets all the accolades.

 

Fraziers motor is what got him sparked vs Foreman.

Tyson fought nothing like Frazier.

Frazier style was full speed ahead and bulldoze everything in his way. Tyson (at least at his peak) was an aggressive counter puncher who made his opponents miss and then make them pay.

 

Tyson watched the Foreman - Frazier fights so many times because it inspired him how often Frazier got up. So when King offered him a fight with Foreman he literally told Don King to **** off and that he would never fight that animal

 

There is a handful that could... Mike would have a chance against them too though... A fully motivated Tyson was something spectacular, insane speed and head movement, and the way he would put his whole body into punches was something else, frightening power.

Not sure he would have ever had it mentally to take on someone like Ali though, who may have beat Tyson before the fight started.

 

Good post. :good

Welcome to ESB, btw.

One minor nitpick: it would be the left hook on the liver (which is located on your opponent's right side) - landing a solid right on the liver would be some feat.

 

Yeah, but he hit so hard that a shot to his opponent's left side would actually hit the liver.

 

Big George would have withstood Mike's early onslaught, and George would have won by KO by R6.

 

If Bruno could land that left hook and hurt him, what would have happened if it was Foreman who landed it ?

Prime Tyson faced good, but not great opposition, and thus never really had to dig deep.

We will never know if Tyson was able to overcome shaky moments vs great fighters.

Hamed too looked sensational for a while against good opposition, just as impressive as Tyson. What would have happened had he met Barrera at that time ?....

 

Or maybe, Tyson simply OVERACHIEVED ?
Prime Tyson had a level of energy impossible to sustain over the long haul.
It's not so much the ladies who did him in, but the substance abuse he certainly took, and whose evidence is just surfacing now.