Can anyone take 88-89 Mike Tyson?

Who did he avoid?

 

Its not work that way. Im talking about skill.
Your talking about what opponent that guy beat and blq, blq, blq, boxing not working that way.
Douglas could beat Lewis, Klitschko, Tyson, and so on, but still can lose to Sanders.
Sanders have insane speed and power, something that Douglas can`t praise with. And Sanders was southpaw which is uncomfortably for a lot of fighter.
Both Berbick and McCall arent something special. Especially when they met Douglas.
Pianeta beat McCall, but so what ?
Thats been say both Douglas and Sanders have their best night and come prepared and for the win. Both have + and -.
Styles makes fight. Something funny is i dont Sander in his best day can beat Tyson, and Douglas cant beat any version of Klitschko, but styles make fights.

 

Larry Holmes beat Ray Mercer easier than Lennox Lewis did. Thats a start.

Next youll tell me Lewis would have been a nobody today.

 

Try again?

Spinks was NOT a LHW. He was a former LHW. Big difference. When Mike fought him, he'd established himself as a very good HW. He'd beaten Holmes twice, in two very close fights, and he'd taken out Gerry C*oney.

Holmes was past his best, and he'd been inactive. I'll give you that. But Holmes went on to give Evander all he could handle, which was after he'd beaten Ray Mercer, who many people think beat Lewis. And who else took out Holmes like Mike did? Nobody. It was a very good win.

You say that none of those guys who Mike beat would be in the top ten today? You're having a laugh. I think you need a reality check.

Below are the current ratings by The Ring Magazine:


Champion - Wladimir Klitschko

1. Alexander Povetkin

2. Deontay Wilder

3. Tyson Fury

4. Kubrat Pulev

5. Bryant Jennings

6. Bermane Stiverne

7. Vyacheslav Glazkov

8. Ruslan Chagaev

9. Tony Thompson

10. Carlos Takam


I suggest that you have a good read of that list.

Have a look at who those guys have beaten.

I'm a big fan of Fury's, and I've been watching him since 2008. But his biggest win to date, is probably against Chisora. And the fact that he's rated as the third/fourth best HW on the planet, speaks volumes about today's HW era.

Who's Pulev beaten?

Who's Wilder beaten? Stiverne. And who's he beaten?

Who's Jennings beaten?


Boxrec also has a similar top ten, apart from including Erken Teper and Antonio Tarver.

Yet despite the above, you're going to tell me that Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks etc, wouldn't have made today's top ten? Even though a 43 year old Tony Thompson is at number 9?

Really?

You're also telling me that Frank Bruno would only have been a 'maybe' ?

Although Frank didn't have a great resume, I'd say it was certainly equal to some of today's guys who are in the top ten. And I'd also say that he was as talented as the majority of them too.


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Great post mate.

Welcome to the forum.


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Big George :deal

 

I thought it was terrible. Riddled with inaccuracies and half-truths.
But they were honest mistakes.

Welcome!

 

Can you pinpoint when he supposedly ducked Big George?

 

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Actually Foreman "Big george' is quoted in saying he didn't sighn the contracts which is why ultimately it never happened after he retired.

 

Prison?

 

I couldn't reply back to him in full earlier, as I was in a rush. Yes, he made a few mistakes, most notably mentioning Buster's father instead of his mother. But I liked the psychological aspect and he seems genuine.

The trolls and the idiots on here drive me mad at times.

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With Lewis size and right hand. He would have been great in any era. Tyson. Not so much