Broken record. Youve added nothing new and have said nothing that proves this film. You wont answer any pertinent questions. Ignore anything that PROVES it isnt Greb and have made several claims which you refuse to back up and which have been debunked. Now you are saying Ive been banned from two forums? Which two? Like McVey said, if Kurt thought he had a peg leg to stand on he could sue me. He wont because he knows I could sit on the stand and destroy his ass without even paying an attorney. Nevermind that he has no legal claim to this and as such his reselling of it (and every other fight he sells) puts him on shaky legal standing. The only thing he could say is that Ive misrepresented him and his own website shields me from that so, sorry dip****, you have no dog in this fight and no proof anyway.
Well personally I as many here would love greb fight films to turn up . I don't know if this one is legit or not but surely if the owner of the film was so sure it was legit he would take issue with klompton . Mendoza tell him to join the site and prove klompton wrong
If that was night and it was artificially lit there would be more than one shadow. It's clearly late afternoon before sunset due to the long shadows.
Yes, noted. Also the brightness outside the ring and in the faces of the people on the far side of the ring.
I have been photographing (real photo, not digital ****) for more than 40 years, and that is daylight not artificial light.
Mendoza won't be told mate, he thinks the rest of the "evidence" is enough to compensate this day/night issue
Yep just done a bit if back reading here as not really kept up with this . I would think whether they like each other or not the best person to view the film and give the best informed opinion on greb would be klompton there can't be many better an expert on greb around . If it were authentic I would think klompton would be honest enough to admit it
I don't know enough about photography to comment on the day/night issue, Klompton is the expert on film and in particular Greb.:good
Daylight is evenly distributed. Those still shots are not. It looks like light is shining down unevenly and can be seen as such on the crowd. Why would bright lights be on during the day? It looks like night lights to me. I'm willing to keep an open mind on this topic.
The shadows all run in the same direction, the faces opposite are all bright, even outside the ring is bright, ergo daylight.
I haven't seen the films. Looking at the stills I have A couple of points ; the trunks on the supposed Gans look out of era. They look like the old Ali style trunks ; white silk with black stripes which seemed to be popular late 1940's onward. Again, to reiterate, the lighting looks clearly daytime to me. If you look at the shadows they all appear from bottom right hand corner of ring to top left hand corner. Surely if this was artificial light there would be many lights and shadows created from many different angles? Without seeing the footage and assessing the fighters in action it is hard to get an appreciation of their style which can help identify, or at least narrow down a decade as the styles changed from the 20's to 30's to 40's. The 'black' fighter seems to have a latter style but to be fair 'Greb' seems to have a stance that is more akin to the 1920's. From what I can see the crowds attire doesn't speak of the 1920's either. What do you guys think? Also it looks like a tiny audience ; like a gathering at a training session. Klomp will know Im sure a rough attendance of that fight... My hunch and 'two pennies worth' says this is two decades later than 1926. . .
Yes I did, thats what the 4th or 5th time now youve totally ignored posts Ive made on here. Its he who cant answer anything specific. Im sorry but "nipple placement" and "inocculation marks" are a ridiculous way to pretend youve identified a film. An inocculation mark is not like a fingerprint. Everyone had them back then. Besides the idea that if you think you can see an innoculation mark in that ****ty film your nuts and seeing what you want to see. I have films from that era that Ive paid to have transferred in HD (which this one clearly isnt). You could zoom in on the image and make a photo from it if you wanted and you still dont have that kind of clarity. Asinine. You are asinine for keeping up this pointless, hopeless argument and Kurt is asinine for continually trying to pass off fake Greb films on the public. Its damn pathetic is what it is. Bill Herr discovered the only Greb film. I gave him full credit for it in my book. Had Kurt discovered ANYTHING at all Id give him full credit for it. He didnt discover **** and doesnt want any real expert on either film or Greb anywhere near this turd.
Okay *******. You were in fact banned from the Cyber boxing zone and Box Rec at one time. Are you going to deny this and lie here? Funny when you ask for names and data I provide them. Then I offer you a ban bet saying I can prove it an you drop like a fly in a freezer. WHATEVER! Prove to me you have the film. You won't or cant! I say you can't. You only said it very late in the game for a reason. Until you prove to me you have the film and have seen it like others have who say it is Greb you have zero credibility on this topic. I'll steer clear of the suing thing as I do not know your history with him, but if it somehow impacted business because of your never ending attempt to bury the guy, I suppose defamation of character could be filed. I used to think you deserved to see the film. Now I'm taking mild pleasure that one you hate, who by the way has several people agreeing with him has it. Is it day or night? I'm not 100% sure. I'll keep an open mind there